Blue Badge 'police'

Brassedoff

DanE2010 wrote: »

And to get back to the OT re blue badges FACT is we are all in the same boat, no blue badge holder has priority over a space , someone in a wheelchair doesnt have priority, thems the rules..........

Well that's where the system is wrong. Someone with perfect use of their limbs does not have the same physical problems as a person without the same use.

Out comes the mental illness brigade who harangue and abuse anyone who dares question why someone who cannot physically do something a person with (for example) "depression" or another illness can do, gets the same rights to a blue badge. Yes I get peed off when I see someone without an apparent disability using a space or running from the car to wherever they are going to avoid the rain, but not knowing what their problem is I have to bite my tongue. Sadly you have to rely on people's honesty and that is thin on the ground all round.

I still believe there should be a two tier system. One for those physically unable to do and those who have an illness that has a lesser physical impact.

We all know others that are disabled. My best friend son has Asperger's. He is a lovely lad, aged 20, goes to college on his own on the bus. Works one day a week as part of his course. He gets a blue badge. He takes part in disability swimming galas, wins everyone because he is placed against physically disabled swimmers, some cannot use their legs or arms, but he wins by a country mile every time. His mother drives his motability car. She uses his blue badge claiming to be following the rules by using the car to shop for the disabled lad. Is she breaking the rules? I would say yes, if not to the letter, morally she is. Does someone with a severe syndrome who manages to take two separate busses some 25 miles a day, goes to the pub with friends on his own and does really well in fighting his disability deserve or need HRM and a blue badge when he lives a normal life and has shown no need for the badge as he clearly demonstrates his independent mobility? I am not writing the point on his asperger's , I question his same need compared to a wheel chair user.

SandraScarlett

DanE2010 wrote: »

And to get back to the OT re blue badges FACT is we are all in the same boat, no blue badge holder has priority over a space , someone in a wheelchair doesnt have priority, thems the rules..........

Alas, Dan, you are banging your head against a brick wall, with regard to trying to make some posters see a reasoned point of view. In an ideal world, anyone with a BB would be able to park, at all times, whenever they wished to do so, in a BB space.

Because there are occasions when BB holders cannot find a BB space, some are resentful when they see others occupying these. It doesn't matter what reasons are put forward, or what level of incapacity they have - they want a space, they can't find one, someone has to be blamed, and the BB occupant of the space that someone else wants, is the devil incarnate.

My husband's BB badge is never loaned to anyone else, if he is not with them. He uses it in a responsible way, as I am sure the vast percentage of BB holders do. There is no way that he can know that there may be someone behind who feels they need the space more than he does.

If we drove past a BB space, how do we know that the person behind us has less or more need, in our opinion? Our local supermarket has a huge number of BB spaces, but because our locality has an equally huge number of elderly people, many of whom have a BB, it is often difficult to park.

To those of you who feel you have priority - by all means vent your anger at non BB holders who park in these spaces, but leave the BB holders to make their own decisions as to whether they need the space or not.

xx

DanE2010

Brassedoff wrote: »

Well that's where the system is wrong. Someone with perfect use of their limbs does not have the same physical problems as a person without the same use.

Out comes the mental illness brigade who harangue and abuse anyone who dares question why someone who cannot physically do something a person with (for example) "depression" or another illness can do, gets the same rights to a blue badge. Yes I get peed off when I see someone without an apparent disability using a space or running from the car to wherever they are going to avoid the rain, but not knowing what their problem is I have to bite my tongue. Sadly you have to rely on people's honesty and that is thin on the ground all round.

I still believe there should be a two tier system. One for those physically unable to do and those who have an illness that has a lesser physical impact.

We all know others that are disabled. My best friend son has Asperger's. He is a lovely lad, aged 20, goes to college on his own on the bus. Works one day a week as part of his course. He gets a blue badge. He takes part in disability swimming galas, wins everyone because he is placed against physically disabled swimmers, some cannot use their legs or arms, but he wins by a country mile every time. His mother drives his motability car. She uses his blue badge claiming to be following the rules by using the car to shop for the disabled lad. Is she breaking the rules? I would say yes, if not to the letter, morally she is. Does someone with a severe syndrome who manages to take two separate busses some 25 miles a day, goes to the pub with friends on his own and does really well in fighting his disability deserve or need HRM and a blue badge when he lives a normal life and has shown no need for the badge as he clearly demonstrates his independent mobility? I am not writing the point on his asperger's , I question his same need compared to a wheel chair user.

If you think the system is wrong for whatever reason take it up with the powers that be but dont vent your anger at other people who in your opinion may have lesser need for a BB space than you, at the end of the day its your opionion and not based on any medical evidence, its an opinion that is biased towards your own condition, you can harp on about it as much as you like on here - and upset alot of people genuinely suffering on a daily basis who probably came to this section to chat with like minded people and share information about moneysaving re being disabled, yet you and several others have turned this section into a minefield and a very negative place. You and several other are determined to turn every thread on this board into a slangin match, someone ask's a genuine question and it gets turned into the third degree and then made to feel there disability is nothing compared to 'proper disabled people'

Well I think everyone has established what the BB rules are so I wont be wasting my time going round in circles with people like yourself who have made your minds up based on you own prejudice opinions, what a lovely place you've made this section of the forum.

DanE2010

SandraScarlett wrote: »

Alas, Dan, you are banging your head against a brick wall, with regard to trying to make some posters see a reasoned point of view. In an ideal world, anyone with a BB would be able to park, at all times, whenever they wished to do so, in a BB space.

Because there are occasions when BB holders cannot find a BB space, some are resentful when they see others occupying these. It doesn't matter what reasons are put forward, or what level of incapacity they have - they want a space, they can't find one, someone has to be blamed, and the BB occupant of the space that someone else wants, is the devil incarnate.

My husband's BB badge is never loaned to anyone else, if he is not with them. He uses it in a responsible way, as I am sure the vast percentage of BB holders do. There is no way that he can know that there may be someone behind who feels they need the space more than he does.

If we drove past a BB space, how do we know that the person behind us has less or more need, in our opinion? Our local supermarket has a huge number of BB spaces, but because our locality has an equally huge number of elderly people, many of whom have a BB, it is often difficult to park.

To those of you who feel you have priority - by all means vent your anger at non BB holders who park in these spaces, but leave the BB holders to make their own decisions as to whether they need the space or not.

xx

Couldnt agree more, some people are just determined to vent their anger regardless and no about of reasoning will change their point of view, they have priority and if you dont look disabled your somehow defrauding the system! what a mentality to have

Brassedoff

DanE2010 wrote: »

If you think the system is wrong for whatever reason take it up with the powers that be but dont vent your anger at other people who in your opinion may have lesser need for a BB space than you, at the end of the day its your opionion and not based on any medical evidence, its an opinion that is biased towards your own condition, you can harp on about it as much as you like on here - and upset alot of people genuinely suffering on a daily basis who probably came to this section to chat with like minded people and share information about moneysaving re being disabled, yet you and several others have turned this section into a minefield and a very negative place. You and several other are determined to turn every thread on this board into a slangin match, someone ask's a genuine question and it gets turned into the third degree and then made to feel there disability is nothing compared to 'proper disabled people'

Well I think everyone has established what the BB rules are so I wont be wasting my time going round in circles with people like yourself who have made your minds up based on you own prejudice opinions, what a lovely place you've made this section of the forum.

Anger? A ridiculous and stupid statement!

Yet again, raise a point of view and a persons inability to read and assimilate what's is said is then denigrated into a persons daily struggle. Something we all have in one way or another each day. You clearly don't get it!!

wattdallas

DanE2010 wrote: »

Do you have anything constructive to say?! ever?! People are trying to explain things to you and see what they get back from you, you just come across as being someone who doesnt know much about what your talking about so instead you resullt to being rude and abusive.

And fyi the system is being overhauled primarily to save money, this pretty apparent, surely you know this?! but you and others would rather lay the blame on people abusing the system, yet the figures arent there to support this, you just have your own prejudice opinion that the system is being abused on such a scale that it would warrent a system overhaul yet have no evidence to support this other than "I know someone down the road, or my cousin, uncle, friend of a friend is on the make and claiming fraudulently" which doesnt speak for the country as a whole.[/Q

I think its you love who doesnt get it

Indie_Kid

wattdallas wrote: »

I think its you love who doesnt get it

I think it's you who doesn't get it.

I still believe there should be a two tier system. One for those physically unable to do and those who have an illness that has a lesser physical impact.

Oh yes, the hierarchy of disability - brilliant idea! *rolls eyes*

wattdallas

SingleSue wrote: »

My point is though, you still have a disability which has an impact on your life..if may appear inconsequential to others but to you, it causes an impact.

My old example has always been - My eldest son has dyslexia, to me that is nothing in comparison with the other problems the boys have but to another parent who has a child with dyslexia, it can be the hugest thing and I can understand that. The perfect child they thought they may have is not there and there is still a grieving process to go through, the hassles with education to go through than they would have had with a child who has no problems.

Ok, dyslexia does not entitle someone to a BB and in most cases, DLA but it is still a disability that causes problems to the person who is suffering from it and we should not belittle those concerns and difficulties.

I understand what you are trying to say SS i too have a daughter with Aicardi syndrome ie non mobile ,visually impaired ,no speech, seizures daily,severe scoliosis ,breathing propblems,wheelchair bound.

And i understand that some who have less disabilities than her are still disabled and are entitled to BB and DLA etc.

Some would say i have a disability ,i have back problems caused by carrying her through the years and now have drop foot and numb left leg ,so i fall alot and when i get a nasty bout of back pain hubby takes time off work and looks after me ,we just get on with it.

I dont think as myself to be disabled because im not,too many people claim they are to get extra money and bb.

lucylucky

I think this thread has come to the end of its natural life.

wattdallas

sh1305 wrote: »

I think it's you who doesn't get it.



Oh yes, the hierarchy of disability - brilliant idea! *rolls eyes*

OOOOHHHHH dont take it out on me love because you are trying to get moreDLA than your entitled too. GAGS