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URGENT - Bought a car on ebay but something amiss?

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  • emmell
    emmell Posts: 1,228 Forumite
    Have I missed something here, what's plastic wrap? I've heard of vinyl wrap where the car gets covered in a design like carbon fibre but I've never heard of a company covering their cars in plastic, it seems a bit pointless if they're only gonna get below trade prices for the vehicles anyway. If that car is booked at £3200 trade then that's about the maximum a trader would pay so if he's already making the best part of a grand, why charge the op £15 extra to put some tax on it. I know nobody works for nothing but to charge the op £15 to pay for his own road tax, the mind boggles.
    ML.
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  • Inactive
    Inactive Posts: 14,509 Forumite
    emmell wrote: »
    Have I missed something here, what's plastic wrap? I've heard of vinyl wrap where the car gets covered in a design like carbon fibre but I've never heard of a company covering their cars in plastic,
    ML.

    I read it to mean the plastic covering on trim items that new cars arrive with had never been removed and was obviously like new underneath, that is of course if the seller can be believed.

    His first language does not appear to be English so I may have that wrong.
  • cyclonebri1
    cyclonebri1 Posts: 12,827 Forumite
    I sincerly hope that LS doesn't bother to even look at it, he/she is going to have to live with the doubt for the length of time the car is owned.

    You can back out of the deal for any numbers of reasons, they are all listed on ebay, and the seller does not pay a penny if the sale is cancelled by mutual consent, I think it may even be possible to have the item relisted under those circunstances. Ebay make it easy to back out, they get so much money from buyers that they want them back time and again, no point in scaring them off with tough policing policy.

    I think LS may simply have gone to look over the car just to have good reason to refuse it, may just have been frightened into that by some of thye comments on here .:eek:
    I like the thanks button, but ,please, an I agree button.

    Will the grammar and spelling police respect I do make grammatical errors, and have carp spelling, no need to remind me.;)

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  • bigbulldog
    bigbulldog Posts: 632 Forumite
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    pixiechick wrote: »
    Personally, I don't care whether the seller's genuine or a rogue. The fact remains that you bought the car - too late for questions or second thoughts - period!

    IMO I think that comment is way wrong for a number of reasons.
  • Inactive
    Inactive Posts: 14,509 Forumite
    The eBay seller actually backed out of another eBay car purchase himself, he should really have 2 negatives against him if you read the feedback carefully.
  • Strider590
    Strider590 Posts: 11,874 Forumite
    edited 26 July 2010 at 9:33AM
    Hold on, am I missing something here? there's like 1 negative feedback from someone who didn't follow the sellers auction rules????
    He's buying cars and not registering them in his name, to avoid adding owners to the vehicle.... ALL GARAGES DO THIS!

    I sell things on Ebay and I can understand why he wouldn't want someone who'd got no feedback....... It's easy to start an Ebay account and scam sellers out of valuable items.

    I've had negative feedback because of the Royal mail delivering a parcel just 1 day too slow for the buyer.

    What exactly has this seller done wrong??

    Get the vehicle reg do a HPI check and then decide.
    I've seen dodgy ebay sellers and this guy looks like a saint in comparison.

    I'd buy from this guy, although id have gone to see the car before bidding.......
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  • Inactive
    Inactive Posts: 14,509 Forumite
    Strider590 wrote: »
    Hold on, am I missing something here? there's like 1 negative feedback from someone who didn't follow the sellers auction rules????
    He's buying cars and not registering them in his name, to avoid adding owners to the vehicle.... ALL GARAGES DO THIS!

    In a word yes, read his feedback, there are 2 feedbacks that should have been negatives, but for some reason were not.

    He is not registered as a business seller, he is not a " Garage ".
  • Strider590
    Strider590 Posts: 11,874 Forumite
    edited 26 July 2010 at 10:03AM
    ^^ Sorry I wasn't too clear, im not saying he is a garage, im saying that if I bought a car to sell on I wouldn't register it in my name simply because 1 owner is better than 2 owners. The general public are very fussy about this stuff.

    Another thing is..... If dealerships/garages had a wall outside showing "negative feedback" none of us would ever buy a car again!!

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    I think there a lot of uncalled for negative comments in this thread, purely through technophobic fear and ignorance. The are also many many valid points.

    It's like.... I buy tons of things on ebay, but I feel I can't tell my friends/family/colleagues, because all I get is "ooooooh ebay, internet, dodgy, pedo's, perverts, scammers, very baaaaad, scary!!!!" and do you know what? I laugh, I laugh at the ignorance and I laugh at how people pay through the nose for goods because the media, the papers and common gossip turns them away from the SINGLE biggest advancement in consumer rights this century!!
    How much of this fear is generated by companies and organisation who stand to benefit from it?

    I seriously think the OP should get the vehicle details, get a HPI and go see the car (take a friend or even a vehicle inspector). If it's NOT 150% as described then you have the right to walk away, your bound to find something minor to pick on if you really want to walk away anyway.

    "oh this tiny little scratch wasn't described in the ad, bye bye"
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  • Jakg
    Jakg Posts: 2,267 Forumite
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    Kimberley wrote: »
    It may be legit but you always have to be careful. Also it has done a lot of miles in just 3 years. Mine is 17 years old and done 110,000 miles which is less then the 3 year old Mazda. Does the milege usage matter with the running of the car?
    Your car has done 6.5k per year... thats very low. The average is about 12.5k miles a year, however company cars etc often do more - the '6 has done 42k a year which is a lot, yes, but cars don't make it over 100k being unreliable.

    But of course, theres no way you'll get 800 miles a week out of a car on anything other than motorways, so the mileage isn't as bad as it sounds.
    taffy056 wrote: »
    If he is a trader, why is he not listed as a business seller on ebay ? really if its his business he should be
    Loads and loads of "semi-traders" around - i.e. they buy and sell cars, but of course aren't registered as traders, and probably don't declare the income / have any liability or traders insurance / dont provide a warranty. Sounds bad, I know, but I just treat them like a cagey private seller and let the car do the talking...

    When I was buying my new car I met tons of these sort of people, all lived in Essex oddly enough (maybe it was just the type of car I was after?).
    Inactive wrote: »
    How could a dealer know exactly where the vehicle had been driven throughout it's entire life?
    How do you think he got the car? He probably knows someone in the company and so got first pickings at their throwaways - what the car was used for probably came up when they mentioned the car. The service stuff will be from the service history, and like I said you wont get 800 miles a week on back-roads.
    Inactive wrote: »
    He is a liar anyway, he said he had been offered £4400 for it, yet is happy to take your £4100.
    I think more likely he got an offer or £4,400 but the buyer never materialised (it happens - probably realised he was paying over the odds and pulled out), the seller isn't going to get that £4,400 but he's using it as a bargaining point to get more than the £4k the other buyer was offering... that obviously hasn't worked so he's now willing to take a little less (£4,100) to get rid of it...

    You could call it lieing... but does anyone ever trust car dealers, ever?


    All I would say is - don't trust whatever he says about the car as you have no comeback. I found a great ZT in Essex when I was looking for one, I went to see it - apparently it had always been serviced at the previous owners local MG dealer, and I could call to verify if I wanted (patchy service history, though), but was cherished by the previous owner. I called his bluff, called the garage and they had gone bust (I think the trader already knew this tbh...), so called the previous owner who told me that in his entire 35k-mile ownership of the car he had a mate change the oil & filter and that was it... so not really an FSH. To make matters worse, I took the car for a test drive when I was there, tax was expired and while I had DOC on my insurance, the car didn't have a policy on it, it was only when I got in I realised the car had no trade plates so I could very well of got 6 points for no insurance / tax... :eek:

    This was ~4 months ago, and the car is still for sale, only now for £600 more (:rotfl:)

    Yes, the guys dodgy as hell, but it's the car that i'm buying, not the seller!
    sassy-one wrote: »
    Also, just looking at the listing again it states that it has just had a new exhaust fitted and reads the follwoing:

    THE MAZDA 6 HAS JUST HAD COMPLETE EXHAUST AND MANIFOLD WHICH HAS JUST COSTED UNDER £4000.00

    Do exhausts on these makes/models of car really cost £4000.00?? Sh*t :o
    Think that would put me off before I even got started!!!!!!
    I think that it probably had a bit of work (maybe new brakes and a service along with that exhaust) and as the company were paying the bill with labour etc came to something starting with a 3 and the trader just rounded up... £1k would easily get you a stainless steel complete exhaust + manifold.
    sassy-one wrote: »
    I would not buy a car off eBay TO THE VALUE of £4000 odd.

    It it was a few hundred, even a grand maybe but not £4000 as I would want to go to a trader where by I had some sort of come back, even if it was for a week!

    I wouldn't buy the car but now that you have brought it, unless you can PROVE and show strong evidence, you made a legal contract to buy and unless you have evidence to prove the seller, be it he is a trader or private seller, to have written something in his listing wrong, you must carry the contract through.

    Also, I have read the listing and to be fair to the seller, they did CLEARLY state they would need a deposit, which you should have sorted prior to bidding - not having ago mate but at the end of the day, you are saying about all these faults now and not giving this guy a chance, you are just going along with gut feeling when in sense you should have thought about all this before clicking 'Place your bid'
    So you would never buy a £4k car privately? eBay is just another way to meet private sellers. I'd have no problems buying a £4k car on eBay... as long as I was confident in the car (I had the RAC inspect the cars I was looking at)
    sassy-one wrote: »
    Yes I have!
    Read something about that a few months ago in the paper.
    I wouldn't personally go and meet anyone somewhere to exchange cash, and even if I did I wouldn't take cash, I'd first find out the nearest cash point to my meeting location then go meet the person if they didn't want too/couldn't come to me and after I was happy I'd go to the cash point.
    Except you can only take £300 per day out from a cash point, so that wont work at all. You can pick the money up from a bank, yes, but not if its a weekend.

    When I went to pick my new car up I put the money (£3100) in envelopes and secreted it in a bag hidden out of the way when I went to pick it up. He didn't know where it was and I kept a very close guard on it.... going on the tube with £3k in my pocket was an "experience" though :eek:




    His name isn't on the logbook because it's probably still in the name of the previous owner. Do you think when a dealer takes a car in P/X they register it in their name, adding an extra owner, then sell it on? Of course they don't... same for this guy.



    I'll be honest, I don't see what's so dodgy about the car - the guy wants a deposit because he probably gets a lot of people "winning" cars (which he will now have to pay the extortionate final value fee for) then never collecting because they find something else - when I sold my bike I had the same problem - guy did a Buy-It-Now (which cost me £20 in fees), turns up, offers me half what he just agreed to because of a tiny mark in the forks which made it "unsaleable" and then wonders why I tell him to go away... I still lost £20 though (and in case your wondering I eventually sold it for 50% more than the original price he was meant to pay so it cant be that bad!).

    yes it's done alot of miles... but £4k for a 2007 car? Pretty good deal imo.
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  • Inactive
    Inactive Posts: 14,509 Forumite
    edited 26 July 2010 at 10:08AM
    Strider590 wrote: »
    ^^ Sorry I wasn't too clear, im not saying he is a garage, im saying that if I bought a car to sell on I wouldn't register it in my name simply because 1 owner is better than 2 owners. The general public are very fussy about this stuff.

    Another thing is..... If dealerships/garages had a wall outside showing "negative feedback" none of us would ever buy a car again!!

    1) You would be breaking the law unless you were a bona fide motor trader, which I suspect this seller is not.

    2) This is an eBay sale, so feedback is relevant.
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