Children been taken into care what now!!!!

Oldernotwiser

boo666 wrote: »

I thought if she went over to JSA she would need to be avalible for work? How can she do this if she is having contact with her children 2-3 times a week at a contact centre nearly 25 miles away? Plus she is going to be under taking assesments etc to try and get her children back...!!

I answered this question in post #3.

boo666

Hi yes she has got herself a family solicitor, they dont go into court till this thursday for the first time so they have not had a chance to see the eveidence, personaly i dont think they have alot because when they were trying to get the emergency order SS legal deparment did not get back to them for over a week even though they asked for a desion the same day.
It was her brief who advised her sign them into volentuary care because socail services came back with a court date and a set contact plan as 2 days before when they tried getting her to sign they had not even been given a court date.

And for anyone who thinks i am just sticking up for a friend then you are way off the mark, I have seen one or two of my friends who have still got there children with them and they live in complete crap, there children run around the streets, take anything they can get there hands on while they have SS involved.

POPPYOSCAR

justjohn wrote: »

kids are taken into care for a reason. Kids are NOT taken into care for no REASON. There are laws and there are checks. Yes SS can mess up and not take kids in care, SS can be sloppy and not do enough due to miss management. But there are reasons for kid to be taken into care and more than just one person is responsible for that decision.

The reason i mention prison is many criminals say they are innocent, Many people with your view refuse too see why kids are taken into care. BETTER SAFE THAN SORRY

Do you have personal experience of this?

I have heard of cases where I think the children have been taken away from the parents without good reason.I also went with someone to court who had her son taken away from her and one of the reasons was he was overweight. I read all the papers and could not believe what was going on I had expected to read something there that she had not disclosed to me but I did not. You have no idea just how powerful these people can be and the control they have.

Being put into care severely traumatised this boy who was in no danger so much so that he is now a drug addict.

marydot

In any court of law, she is classed as a unfit mother, this is why the children were taken away in the first place regardless of the situation. She is an adult and a parent, there is no greater responsiblity than this in life.

Your friend is not the first one to be in this situation and probably won't be the last. I class these's types of people weak as they always try to blame somebody else for there actions.

boo666 you seem to care for your friend, maybe if it was you in this situation would your friend do the same for you, i very much doubt it.

You seem to know all the answers so why are you acting in a bad manner, are you sure you want advice for a friend or advise for yourself.

Some people really need to get an education and learn about being a parent before they have off spring.

boo666

marydot wrote: »

In any court of law, she is classed as a unfit mother, this is why the children were taken away in the first place regardless of the situation. She is an adult and a parent, there is no greater responsiblity than this in life.

Your friend is not the first one to be in this situation and probably won't be the last. I class these's types of people weak as they always try to blame somebody else for there actions.

boo666 you seem to care for your friend, maybe if it was you in this situation would your friend do the same for you, i very much doubt it.

You seem to know all the answers so why are you acting in a bad manner, are you sure you want advice for a friend or advise for yourself.

Some people really need to get an education and learn about being a parent before they have off spring.

But the court did not file the paperwork for SS to take them she agreed to it volentary.


And YES she is a friend and YES she would be there for me if the same was to happen to me, you must need to look at your own friends to ask a question like that.


I would say the advice is for myself if it was!!!! Because i am a friend I am trying to find out the right information before I say what she needs to do, the last thing she needs is for me to give her the wrong sort of advice at this moment in time!!!!

And you need to open your eyes and come into the real world a bit, there are lots of reasons why SS become involved witgh familys and on this occassion it was my friend going to them for help..

AnxiousMum

POPPYOSCAR wrote: »

Do you have personal experience of this?

I have heard of cases where I think the children have been taken away from the parents without good reason.I also went with someone to court who had her son taken away from her and one of the reasons was he was overweight. I read all the papers and could not believe what was going on I had expected to read something there that she had not disclosed to me but I did not. You have no idea just how powerful these people can be and the control they have.

Being put into care severely traumatised this boy who was in no danger so much so that he is now a drug addict.

You know, the above could also be looked at as having replaced his dependency on food, or whatever caused him to be overweight, with drugs later in life.

Of course you haven't said how overweight he was - but I know many of my children's friends are overweight purely due to the fact that their mothers have more important things (to them) to do than to prepare their children a healthy balanced meal each evening. Given that a good number of today's children survive on deep fried frozen goodies from the freezer section, and the only piece of fresh fruit they get is on the free fruit program at school - yes, that is abuse.

Your post also states that being 'overweight' was ONE of the reasons.......there again, basing their decision on more than just one matter - there was more!

justjohn

POPPYOSCAR wrote: »

Do you have personal experience of this?

I have heard of cases where I think the children have been taken away from the parents without good reason.I also went with someone to court who had her son taken away from her and one of the reasons was he was overweight. I read all the papers and could not believe what was going on I had expected to read something there that she had not disclosed to me but I did not. You have no idea just how powerful these people can be and the control they have.

Being put into care severely traumatised this boy who was in no danger so much so that he is now a drug addict.

That is your view from what you have heard. I prefer to base my view on facts, and the fact that there are checks in place and more than one person decides.

My personal experiance is that it is very hard to get SS to intervene in childrens lifes and as i have said before this will be region to region.

As for the overwieght child. Have you any idea of the amount of people involved in taking 1 child in to care. It is not just a single persons decision.

Oldernotwiser

boo666 wrote: »

And for anyone who thinks i am just sticking up for a friend then you are way off the mark, I have seen one or two of my friends who have still got there children with them and they live in complete crap, there children run around the streets, take anything they can get there hands on while they have SS involved.

Perhaps you should choose your friends more carefully?

kingfisherblue

nottslass wrote: »

What an ignorant post !!!

Families can have dealings with social services for a variety of reasons and most of them will NOT be because the children have been abused.

My children certinly haven't been abused, neglected or anything similar. SS have been involved in my family because one of my children has multiple disabilities and the only way to get a few hours respite is to involve SS.

boo666

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

Perhaps you should choose your friends more carefully?

These are friends that I have known from school (20 something years) so what am I supposed to say sorry your life has turned out rubbish but I want nothing more to do with you!!!!

I would sooner try and help a friend than blank them because of the way they have turned out.

Some people make me laugh they really do.