Children been taken into care what now!!!!

sassy_one

BLT wrote: »

I lost the will to live half way through this hate filled diatribe so have kept in the most biased parts. Anyone else wishing she had continued to refuse to debate?

The comment I have highlighted in bold beggars belief, well done for protecting children but they are a complete and utter waste of space? That comment makes no sense at all, but then again this is clearly someone who has a rigid mindset and follows the adage 'everyone is entitled to MY opinion.

You believe you have met a few bad social workers ergo all social workers are scum (to use your words), this is tantamount to me walking down the street seeing 3 fat wome and then stating that all women are fat.

You ask would we trust the social services with our children, Fortunately, like most people I have never had to , but then again perhaps that's because I have always looked after them.

Have you had 20 years of dealings with Social Services?

Do you 'REALLY' know what Social Services are like?

Has YOUR 15 year old sister been killed while in the 'care' of Social Services?

Have you read the case about Kerry Robertson?



None of my children have been taken into care.
I have had dealings with Social Services however, the details I will not engage on to a public forum, but I will however state they are not what they make out to be.


They protect a handful of children as my post stated, however they are a waste of space on the other hand when they remove and break families up that are perfectly safe and happy.

Unless you have evidence to prove otherwise in favour of Social Services, please don't read me the rights act as I obviously have seen a lot more what Social Services are like.

You are trying to tell me to buy a can of soup claiming it tastes amazing, when you haven't yourself... there's a name for people such as yourself

AnxiousMum

sassy-one wrote: »

Anyone heard of the couple who went on the run from Scotland to Ireland because they intended to remove there new born baby, as the mother had learning difficulties however the father had nothing wrong with him??

Please don't insult me, Social Services are a waste of space.
They DO break families up, they do cause problems and they DON'T look at families that really do need looking into and there child removed!

Wow - were you involved in that case personally? I assume so, as you seem to know both sides of the story? See, the parents probably told the press what they wanted the press to hear, however, SS would not be able to give the whole story, as there was privacy issues and they would need to be showing their ability to keep confidential and factual information confidential. Could you imagine the uproar if they came out and stated exactly the reasons why they planned on removing the baby?
You may have had a rotten experience with SS - and I'm sure many others have as well. This thread also states how many people have benefited from SS assistance in ensuring that they got the support required so that everybody COULD remain together!

I wonder how many families who have had their children removed and done so under a court order, would come on and be totally honest about the situation as to why they were removed. If a parent is not capable of being a proper parent, and believes that placing their child in various situations such as around drugs, physica biolence etc., is 'just the way it is' - would that parent really see that SS was doing the best for the child? Just 'cos a parent accepts situations like that doesn't mean they have to leave a child in danger! Hopefully at some point, the goal is that the parent's eyes are opened to the dangers they have put their child in - that takes time, education and support. But let's not leave the innocent children in the situation to just see if the parents finally wake up to reality.

We don't know the whole situation of the OP's post - but we don't know SS's side - which in reality, is the 'children's side'.

Oldernotwiser

One would have to question the opinion of someone who had 20 years of involvement with Social Services.

AnxiousMum

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

One would have to question the opinion of someone who had 20 years of involvement with Social Services.

Was thinking that too......

snapping_crocodile

sassy-one wrote: »

Have you had 20 years of dealings with Social Services?

Do you 'REALLY' know what Social Services are like?

Has YOUR 15 year old sister been killed while in the 'care' of Social Services?

You sound very bitter about SS :cool: I am sorry to hear you lost your sister and that you feel SS are to blame, but how many children a year die in serious road traffic accidents who are under the care of their parents???....do you think the parents are to blame then?

bugbabe

sassy-one wrote: »

So, anyone defending Social Services can they explain why Fife Council Social Services intended to remove Kerry Robertson and Mark McDougall's new born baby son?

Was it because the mother had learning difficulties?
If that was the case, why wasn't the mother supported?
There is no evidence that a mother or father with learning difficulties cannot be a perfectly good parent like anyone else, and in some cases can be a lot better than the normal parent.

Or, perhaps it was because Kerry had in fact been in care herself, and let down by Social Services herself?
If so, why did they fail her?

Her and her boyfriend were intending and had planned to marry each other, however Social Services stopped them.
Claiming Kerry was not in a mental state to make such a choice.
Although, her doctor said Kerry was perfectly mentally stable to make such a choice and Social Services refusing to carry out a review of her condition.
Why would they stop their marriage, if not to break a happy family up?

Kerry and Mark fled to Ireland as they were scared of losing their baby son, Ben after Social Services threatened to remove him from there care, although they have there own flat, were going to get married and have the support of there family.


I have gone to Social Services MANY times for there support, only to be told they cannot help, or do NOT believe that there is any need for them to investigate, even though I have supplied them with DOCTOR evidence of abuse taking place, they refused to do anything.
Even after a GP requesting there attention they informed the GP they would not be looking into the matter as the 'Family appeared normal'.

Social Services are only interested in caring for a handful of families that may really need them and breaking up a whole field of families.

I have had 20 years (and counting) of dealings with Social Services, I know the way they work, I know they way they act.
When they are interested they are, but when it suits them there not.

They see a happy young couple coping, there MUST be something going on and they will attempt to break that family home apart.


The Baby P case, Social Services WERE made appear of the problems, they FAILED Baby P, if they had acted then maybe Baby P would be here today, this shows Social Services refusing to deal with certain families then picking on the 'Soft touches'.

They are aware of the people within there area who themselves have mental health problems, such as Kerry, they direct there attention to these people as they can easily push them into a dead end.


Please, do not tell me Social Services are 'All lovey dovey' as you can tell me till the cows come home and plead their case for them, but unless you have had direct dealings with them like I have over a 20 year period you do NOT know nothing about them apart from they act like they are trying to help you and remove only children at risk.

Yes, well done to them for removing children that ARE at risk, but waht about the ones that are not?
Can someone on here honestly hold there hand up and say they believe EVERY single child taken into care is done because they ARE at risk?


Also, with regards any child in care, my sister was killed in a serious Road Traffic Accident at the age of 15 while in care of Social Services.


Would you really trust Social Services with your child/children?

And as for the foster parents that they place children with, that's a whole new big thing, but I can assure you alot of the time those people are NOT completely vetted and CRB checked and even when they are, a huge amount of them are GREATER risks to children than if the parents had been.


Social Services are a complete and utter waste of space, the children they do protect, well done but there is a huge amount of failings within EVERY Social Services department.

sorry to hear about your sister but how can it be social services fault she got killed in a road traffic accident ?

far2812

Anyway, back to the point before people really start getting upset.

Your Friend should seek a Family Law Solicitor - where is she based? I have a good network of Solicitors I can recommend (used to work in the industry).

Secondly, she needs to either speak to her Social Worker however she may feel that the SS is not on her side so in that case, go to CAB. The solicitor will also be able to help.

It would help her case greatly if she found some part time work to show the Courts that she wants to move things on and do the right thing for the children.

Obviously without knowing all the details about the situation we really can't help her but for all the Negative posters out there - I really don't believe that people set out to be bad parents but if SS are involved, then hopefully the children are in the right place for now and until they she is deemed to be "safe and not a risk to her children" that is probably where they will stay.

With regards to not being able to work because of seeing the children at a contact centre - usually this is only once a week! Are they stating more?

lynzpower

I really don't believe that people set out to be bad parents and I know that it doesn't help the situation but if SS are involved,

Er, I think you are missing the point here! If the children arnt safe at home then it helps thier situation.

Take your point about "for now though"

far2812

posted edited- faux pas!

lukieboy96

There are good Social Workers as there are bad Social workers. The same with teachers and foster carers.

They are trying to do a job where there is never praise when they do a good job but all the criticism when something goes wrong.

I have had dealings with Social Services and they did everything possible to keep my son with me, and he is still with me. Yes, he had a few social workers but that's because so many are leaving the profession and they are overloaded with cases.

We do not know the persons situation and so we cannot really criticise.

Also, i have a friend who has been a social worker for 20 years and a foster carer.

It is not always the social workers who take the kids or don't, it is the courts.

This debate should finish really as this is a forum about benefits