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  • skibadee
    skibadee Posts: 1,304 Forumite
    Perhaps your friend could discuss all of this with her Social Worker....I should imagine under the circumstances she has one.
  • dmg24
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    sassy-one wrote: »
    I have not made any comments whatsoever about the children being returned, only hoping they are, on grounds they would be safe.

    Perhaps you need to read what you have written before posting - you make no mention of the safety of the children?
    sassy-one wrote: »
    And for anyone thinking or about to say, you know nothing, they don't take children away for no reason, I have been just where the OP's friend has been, a number of times and had years of dealings with the scum.I am very sorry to hear about your friends latest issue with Social Services, I sincerely hope her children are returned promptly, no one here knows the reasons as to why they have removed them by rest assured, Social Services do go out there way to break families up, that have no problems, just because they don't 'like the looks of you'.
    I wish her all the very best
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  • BLT_2
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    OY! There's nowt wrong with watching Corrie! ;)

    Yess thear is, it rotts the brayne :D
  • lynzpower
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    in my experience (working for the NHS) removing children from the home is often a last resort, often ss try to work with families.

    its also NOT the social services decision as to whether children are removed IT IS THE COURTS.

    I wish people would understand this, really I do!
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    Theres no dollar sign on piece of mind
    This Ive come to know...
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  • Kaoslisa
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    I have a family member who is a social worker and they really don't go around trying to break up families, in fact its the last thing they want to do. They would much rather children stay with their parents so long as it is safe for them to do so and as many of you have pointed out it is often a last resort to remove them from the family home.
    Social Services do go out there way to break families up, that have no problems, just because they don't 'like the looks of you'.

    They have a high workload and not much time with families that are using the service as it is, so where is this time coming from to go looking for families that they don't like the look of coming from?

    My family member often works late evenings and weekends, just so children can get to have contact with their parents. You can't tar every social services with the same brush and the social workers themselves are people, who also have a life outside of work.

    They are there for a reason, to help, whether you like it or not. A lot of children are involved in the service and are much better off because of it.

    My advice for the OP is to go to your local CAB office where they can give advice on what they can and cannot claim anymore and also for them to speak to their social worker. They are there to work with the parents as well as the children.
  • lizzielondon
    lizzielondon Posts: 971 Forumite
    sassy-one wrote: »
    Dear oh dear, Social Services up to there old tricks again, breaking families up!

    And for anyone thinking or about to say, you know nothing, they don't take children away for no reason, I have been just where the OP's friend has been, a number of times and had years of dealings with the scum.

    I would advise your friend if they have not already to seek and appoint a Family Law Solicitor, one whom is trained at dealing with Social Services and that can represent in County Court.
    Make sure they carry the Family Law logo!

    I am very sorry to hear about your friends latest issue with Social Services, I sincerely hope her children are returned promptly, no one here knows the reasons as to why they have removed them by rest assured, Social Services do go out there way to break families up, that have no problems, just because they don't 'like the looks of you'.

    As regards benefits, yes she'll lose them all!
    Child Tax Credit and Child Benefit Office will most likely be informed by the local authority (Social Services) so it is in your friends best interests to contact them and declare the change in circumstances as it will look better for her in the long run.

    Regards her home, she will be able to claim Housing Benefit still, although this will need to be reviewed.
    Should her payments not meet the monthly rent, she could ask the landlord for a decrease on grounds she is only living their, or if that fails, contact her local CAB office ASAP.

    I wish her all the very best

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  • welshmoneylover
    welshmoneylover Posts: 3,324 Forumite
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    boo666 wrote: »
    My friend has just had her children taken into care on a voluntary care order (section 20), she did not really have a choice as they would get a emergency order if she did not sign.

    I belive at the moment SS are looking to have the children for around 6 months and look to let her have them back at home after all assesments are carried out, but they will look to change the section 20 to a interim care order next week when they go to court.

    Now what happens to her money? Eg tax credits, child benefit, income support and housing benefit?

    She cant go on jobseekers because she will not be avalible for work because of contact with the children in a contact centre.

    She is so worried that housing benefit will end her claim on her home because of the children not living with her, and then she will be homeless and will have no chance of the children coming back to her, her home is also private rented.

    She does not want to get into trouble for benefit fraud but does not know what to do????

    Any advice would be great...

    I would have thought your friends main concern would be to try and get her children back home living with her rather than worrying about how much money she will lose.

    Why were they taken anyway?
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  • kingfisherblue
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    Kaoslisa wrote: »
    I have a family member who is a social worker and they really don't go around trying to break up families, in fact its the last thing they want to do. They would much rather children stay with their parents so long as it is safe for them to do so and as many of you have pointed out it is often a last resort to remove them from the family home.



    They have a high workload and not much time with families that are using the service as it is, so where is this time coming from to go looking for families that they don't like the look of coming from?

    My family member often works late evenings and weekends, just so children can get to have contact with their parents. You can't tar every social services with the same brush and the social workers themselves are people, who also have a life outside of work.

    They are there for a reason, to help, whether you like it or not. A lot of children are involved in the service and are much better off because of it.

    My advice for the OP is to go to your local CAB office where they can give advice on what they can and cannot claim anymore and also for them to speak to their social worker. They are there to work with the parents as well as the children.


    As someone who has accepted help from Social Services, I can only praise their dedication to their work. I have a child with complex medical needs as well as learning difficulties and physical disabilities. I have received help from social workers in the Children with Disabilities team, and thanks to them, I get a few hours a week respite. I know of several other people who have had similar help.

    I know that my experience of SS is probably under a different category than the OP's friend, but it is easy to make out that SS are the enemy. They are just ordinary people doing a job that must be incredibly hard at times - as Kaoslisa's post points out.

    If the children have been removed from their mother's care, there will be a very good reason. It will not have been a decision that has been taken lightly. Even once a decision was made to take it before a judge, SS can only recommend that the children are removed and they must show good reasons for this to happen. The judge will then make a decision based on the evidence that is presented.

    Welshmoneylover questions why the parent is not trying to get her children back instead of worrying about how much money she will lose (sorry, I don't know how to put another quote into my post). I think this is a valid point, but it is possible that she is trying to get her children back. Without knowing the full details of the case - which shouldn't be posted even if the OP knows them, in case the family can be identified - it is impossible to give accurate advice. It is only possible to post general advice in these circumstances.
  • DUTR
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    I would have thought your friends main concern would be to try and get her children back home living with her rather than worrying about how much money she will lose.

    Why were they taken anyway?

    My thoughts when I read the original post :T
  • whitewing
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    Actually, in all fairness to the original post, she doesn't want to commit benefit fraud and she also wants to have a home for the children to come back to. Surely we should be supporting her in this?
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