Nokia 3510i in Orange Shops

rogerramjet

Just use the Griffin one. should work ok.


The phone is DCT4 by the way.

Remember to write down the IMEI somwhere so if you loose it or it's stolen you can let Orange know (or other networks) so it will become blocked (unusable) in the UK.

seth

Thanks for all the replies and help, hope Orange Shop in Chiswick as some in stock!

"It seems the unlock works fine."
rogerramjet tip about writing down the IMEI is sound in case to report to any provider is the phone is stolen. "Just use the Griffin one. should work ok." "The phone is DCT4 by the way."

heathen

the ime number should be on the box so keep that safe,if u dont fancy the phone it wil be worth more boxed aswell:)

System

Thanks for posting this. Finally managed to sort out my parents with two new phones (poor guys were struggling along with five year old phillips savvys!!!)

Couple of points to note though. The staff in one Orange shop said it was only one trade-in per customer. They only wanted the phone itself with battery and didn't take the box or charger or manual. They just tested that the phone turned on and off.

Also they phoned up and registered me to the phone/sim card which is a pain as my parents were using their existing old orange sim cards.

Thanks again! great deal

Kat

Anon

Dim question alert - if the phone is registered and the SIM, it would still work with another one wouldn't it?

Anon

seth

Not a dim question (there are only DIM answers)

Yes the registration links a top up card that is given to you, to the PAYG SIM, not the phone. [PROVIDED YOU DO NOT PUT YOUR NEW SIM INTO THE PHONE AND SWITCH IT ON YOUR PAYG ACCOUNT WILL STAY DORMANT AND YOU CAN KEEP THE SIM AND CREDIT INDEFINATELY]

So yes you can take the SIM out of your new phone and put it in another orange phone or any unlocked phone. You can also put any existing orange SIM (PAYG or contract) and pop it in the phone. I did the later. I have never had a PAYG phone before and when I got the phone I was not expecting to register it. The chap registered it in my name, I had to speak to a person at orange helpdesk in the store, and then I got the phone. Before taking payment they check the IMEA number of the phone you trade in and check it is not stolen, they told me they recycle the phone. Not sure what that means.

It took my phone home kept the box and the PAYG SIM carefully (Keeps resale value up as pointed out here thanks!) Then charge the phone for 16hours as the chap in the shop said (firt time only). I popped a contract Orange SIM in and the phone worked fine on this SIM.

I tried an old O2 SIM from work and that did not work. Entered the codes in the unlcoking web page and the phone unlocked on the second attempt. The first time I took the battery out of the phone when it said "Restriction Removed" and powered off. But when I put the O2 SIM it said PHONE RESTRICTED. I entered the second unlock code and waited for the phone to say "Restriction Removed" power off and power on by itself (takes about 20seconds) Then popped the O2 SIM and it was accepted. So just wait 20 or 30 seconds AFTER YOU SEE THE "Restriction Removed" message as the phone takes time to switch itself off and back on again!!

Interesting point the chap in the shop said the phone comes with a 1 year manufacturers warantee, but this was VOID if it was unlocked. I said "even for a software only unlock where I just type numbers into the phone" and he said yes. I said where does it say this, he said "in the back of the manual, in the terms and conditions.

I looked there is nothing there and they have to proove I've unlocked it. I don't beleive that unlocking a phone in this way would void a manufactures warantee, or that such practice is legal under EU laws as Martin points out in he intro to unclocking.

Hope this helps and thanks to everyone here for the tips and advice on this. As a newbie PAYG phone purchaser it was a good experience.

jnd

Yes Anon other sims will work. It is only the sim that gets activated when you turn the phone on.

PhiL_P_3

seth wrote:

Then charge the phone for 16hours as the chap in the shop said (firt time only).

Surely this business about charging phones and other gadgets for 10+ hours before using them is a bit of an old myth now which is no longer necessary for the latest lithium batteries, lingering from the days of the old ni-cad batteries which suffered the infamous "memory effect"?

After all if it was still necessary would the manufacturers of these devices not at least mention it in the manual, and if you look at the Nokia 3510i manual for instance you'll find no mention of this requirement..

P.S. I reckon that kat_pond (4 posts up) is a real babe!

seth

You are right the new bateries do not have memory effect (NiMH have memory but this is cyclic not charge memory and the old NiCD have BOTH!) The batteries are shipped flat: Uncharged. The reason for the long initial charge is to get the cells full. Normal charing is a fast charge, plus trickle once the cell voltage is reached, this not yet fully charged, then the trickle tops up the cell. The problem is for new cells the trickle time is long, compared to a cell that has been in use.

It is like using a phone / laptop on a petrol station forecourt, the device is only a spark risk IF dropped AND the battery comes loose AND the unit is drawing close to full power. Unlikely but POSSIBLE.

He is some info on the types of cell in use.

Batteries should be stored in a discharged state since they can self-discharge and may become inactive after a long storage period. They should not be stored for any length of time while connected to an appliance. Best to leave a phone on until it dies, remove reinsert the battery and repeat drain without charging, remove the battery and store. High humidity and temperatures can cause the battery to deteriorate, so these should be avoided during storage.

Nickel Cadmium (Ni-Cd) batteries were the standard technology for years, still used in special applications. They are heavy and very prone to the "memory effect". When recharging a NiCd battery that has not been fully discharged, it "remembers" the old charge and continues there the next time you use it. The memory effect is caused by crystallization of the battery's substances and can permanently reduce your battery's lifetime, even make it useless. To avoid it, you should completely discharge the battery and then fully recharge it again at least once every few weeks. As this battery contains cadmium, a toxic material, it should always be recycled or disposed of properly.

NiCad batteries, and to a some degree NiMH batteries, suffer from what's called the memory effect. Memory Effect means that if a battery is repeatedly only partially discharged before recharging, the battery will forget that it can further discharge. The best way to prevent this situation is to fully charge and discharge your battery on a regular basis.

Nickel Metal Hydride (Ni-MH) batteries are the cadmium-free replacement for NiCad. They are less affected by the memory effect than NiCd and thus require less maintenance and conditioning. However, they have problems at very high or low room temperatures. And even though they use less hazardous materials (i.e., they do not contain heavy metals), they cannot be fully recycled yet. Another main difference between NiCad and NiMH is that NiMH battery offers higher energy density than NiCads. In other words, the capacity of a NiMH is approximately twice the capacity of its NiCad counterpart. What this means for you is increased run-time from the battery with no additional bulk or weight.

Lithium Ion (Li-ion) are the new standard for portable power. Li-ion batteries produce the same energy as NiMH but weighs approximately 20%-35% less. They do not suffer from the memory effect unlike their NiMH and Ni-Cd counterparts. Their substances are non-hazardous to the 0. Because lithium ignites very easily, they require special handling. Unfortunately, few consumer recycling programs have been established for Li-ion batteries at this point in time.

PhiL_P_3

Wowsers! :eek: Thanks for the in-depth reply seth!