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  • Fang_3
    Fang_3 Posts: 7,602 Forumite
    nottslass wrote: »
    The Nursery had managed to collect enough money for the show to go ahead ,regardless of the non payers.

    It was the Nursery that made the callous decision to exclude the children -regardless of any reasoning behind the decision ,their actions were highly unprofessional and unnecessary - in fact I Would go as far to say that the staff involved in the decision should face disciplinary action.

    I'm sure that ofsted would be most interested to hear about the practices that this Nurseries management appear to adopt.


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    You don't know the circumstances. The play may have been charged per member of the audience.

    I think the nursery did the right thing for all the children concerned. If there hadn't been a loudmouthed parent refusing to pay and making a scene then no one would be any the wiser. They forced the nursery to act fairly and they did.
  • POPPYOSCAR
    POPPYOSCAR Posts: 14,902 Forumite
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    But to flip and reverse the situation just because some parents can't afford/or won't pay why should all the children miss out on these things? :(


    Because in my opinion they are at school to be educated and should all be given the same opportunities. Why should those children whose parents are in the fortunate position to be able to afford these trips gain an advantage over those that cant/dont want to.If its a holiday style trip then fair enough but when it is connected to their studies I think this is morally wrong.

    My niece is a teacher and her union have advised them not to go on school trips due to recent cases of charges brought against teachers when kids have been injured and also have died in some cases.So there is added pressure for the teachers as well.
  • POPPYOSCAR
    POPPYOSCAR Posts: 14,902 Forumite
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    [QUOTE=Fang;34954839]Spare me the communist hippy commune claptrap![/QUOTE]


    I am no communist nor hippy and have never lived in a commune but I also think everyone has a responsibilty to look out for others especially the vunerable i.e. the young and the old.
  • Fang_3
    Fang_3 Posts: 7,602 Forumite
    POPPYOSCAR wrote: »
    Because in my opinion they are at school to be educated and should all be given the same opportunities. Why should those children whose parents are in the fortunate position to be able to afford these trips gain an advantage over those that cant/dont want to.If its a holiday style trip then fair enough but when it is connected to their studies I think this is morally wrong.

    My niece is a teacher and her union have advised them not to go on school trips due to recent cases of charges brought against teachers when kids have been injured and also have died in some cases.So there is added pressure for the teachers as well.

    Education isn't just about being sat in a classroom. They do all have the same opportunities, but those opportunities only exist is parents pay for them. There's not a parent in this land who can't spare £5, or alternatively swallow their misplaced pride and speak to the Head about it. Unfortunately some (scummy parents) like to make a scene and freeload off of others. The nursery, rightly, didn't give in to this.
  • POPPYOSCAR
    POPPYOSCAR Posts: 14,902 Forumite
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    Fang wrote: »
    If that's true, why do you care that these children missed out at all?



    Because they were singled out from the other children.
  • Fang_3
    Fang_3 Posts: 7,602 Forumite
    POPPYOSCAR wrote: »
    [QUOTE=Fang;34954839]Spare me the communist hippy commune claptrap!


    I am no communist nor hippy and have never lived in a commune but I also think everyone has a responsibilty to look out for others especially the vunerable i.e. the young and the old.[/QUOTE]

    Look out for - yes. Have a responsibility towards - no. The family and then the state have a responsibility to the vulnerable. No one else.
  • galvanizersbaby
    galvanizersbaby Posts: 4,676 Forumite
    meg72 wrote: »
    Understand where you are coming from but have to disagree Why the need to hold the kids responsible. Three to four year olds have no concept of money matters. To me every adult has a responsibility to look after children. Whether you have any or not.

    I agree with this but I do think only the parent is financially responsible
  • Fang_3
    Fang_3 Posts: 7,602 Forumite
    POPPYOSCAR wrote: »
    Because they were singled out from the other children.

    How can four children be singled out together? Think about it...

    As far as you know they just went to do something very constructive like learning their times tables in a classroom. Which obviously you'd support?
  • wornoutmumoftwo
    wornoutmumoftwo Posts: 1,250 Forumite
    I think it's sad on the children who messed out, but can see both sides.
    I help in a nursery and know they would never allow any child to miss out, but then we do a lot of fundraising to provide an event such as this without having to ask parents for any contribution (xmas panto or clown usually).

    NOw my boys are at school and the standard is for all letters to come home with the eldest, who is notorious for not bringing them home. I've been lucky so far for my two boys not missing anything big. I would be gutted if this happened to one of mine because the eldest (autistic) doesn't bring letters home, despite me asking the school to give them to the youngest who will bring everything home.
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  • Fang_3
    Fang_3 Posts: 7,602 Forumite
    I agree with this but I do think only the parent is financially responsible

    This. :T
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