It's STILL tough and not getting better - so how are we coping?

flowertotmum

Hi all..wow that took me forever to read all the posts..very interesting..i love this particular bit on here..the views are so diverse and yet no-one has taken offence..which is amazing..and good...big hugs for all those who need them...feeling very mellow today...my little girl iris is 2 today and i really can't believe how time has gone..got a very small tea party tonight and its all homemade..jelly and icecream,egg sandwiches,tarts and a homemade birthday cake..been at it all morning...hubby has got second interview for poundland next wk...hope its all ok and i really hope he gets it...its only part-time but better than nothing..
oh and i agree with mardatha..a lot of women only went to uni to find a good catch..my great aunt being an example...sent her daughter to uni only to turn around and say"don't worry if you meet a good chap you can always drop out"...but that was then and this is now..uni is a great place for young people to get an education in their chosen vocation..however i do believe the parents should be partly responsible for the "common sense" education..some of which sadly appears to be lacking these days...i.e. cooking,budgeting,contraception...waffled too much...going to have a cuppa and get table set for tea..
take care all...

kezlou

ceridwen wrote: »

but would be looking for some good-quality vocational training for any other children (you should see what some plumbers earn.......:eek::D).

Please tell me my partners a plumber works 40 + and £175 a week after tax, i know others who are fully qualified and live to mouth.
I really wish people would stop going on saying plumbers earn thousands. If they did my household wouldn't be struggling to pay bills,rent, food etc We are in a recession, people are not getting work done on they houses any more, or if they are , they doing it themselves, instead of paying for plumbers / electricians.
As for health, well plumbing is one of the worst what with breathing in fibre glass into they lungs, dust, gas, you name it goes in them. Its a nasty job to be in. don't forget what they do a job and then don't get paid they knackered. Its extremely hard to get into the industry to start with and with insurance it costs a fortune to be in it!

sorry it just makes me so angry!!!!!!!:mad::mad::mad::mad:

greengoblin wrote: »

I meant that i'll stop ranting - i've just re-read what I wrote and that's what it reads like lol.

To quote Cicero "It is impossible to debate without refuting"

I mean to say this last night, but internet went off so i couldn't reply to you.
Hey ranting is good, it shows how passionate you are:), its great to have chats and debates with such a broad minded people. Its great So please don't stop ranting!!!!!!!

gailey sounds like you had a good night out, ad well deserved i might add!!!
really pleased the scan went well an yours too lauren!

Its not just pressure Ang, but i did say in another post if the boys decide not to go to uni, then i cant make them. I would just prefer it, me and my partner both know how hard it is in the real world of life, jobs etc. We just want what's best for them, you you obviously do with yours.The children/ adults etc in my family are not encouraged to gain an education or work and its makes me sick to the stomach. My thing is if i put it into they heads thne they'll progreess , whicle if i say no you don't have to go to college etc i really feel they'll end becoming violent criminal / druggie on the street like so many of my family are. Its just for me a way out of the mentality which i know so many people are in.

:rotfl::rotfl:primrose, nearly my cuppa out there!

RAS

ceridwen wrote: »

That sounds like the sorta sense that would get talked by another INTJ (personality type):rotfl:. One of the first questions I would have asked if I had been in that Home Office job would have been "Please define how YOUR degrees equate to OUR degrees...I want to know if they match or are better" Sounds like you would have asked that question too - but thats FAR too sensible isnt it?:cool:

Well I did have the advantage of doing my A levels in a very mixed group including a US student who had done Year 1 of a US degree and a recent Pakistani graduate who needed English A levels to get into university here.

But I know what you mean - I spend my life going "and what EXACTLY do you mean by........"

Frugalista

*Chattie* wrote: »

one wonders what planet you live on where one went to university to find a husband and where one wouldnt allow one's offspring to become a roofer and one wonders even more what on earth all this has to do with os.

Exactly what I was thinking - this thread seems to be morphing into "The Crazy, Imaginary World of Ceridwen" - and less about how we are all coping in these tough times :(:(.

Margaret54

Thanks for that article sammy-kaye. They are having it very hard in America, I think. When I think of how it is here in the U.K we are so much better off.

RAS

Frugalista wrote: »

Exactly what I was thinking - this thread seems to be morphing into "The Crazy, Imaginary World of Ceridwen" - and less about how we are all coping in these tough times :(:(.

Bit of harmless reminiscing going on....

But you could turn the thread back to its original theme?

Over to you?

anguk

kezlou wrote: »

Its not just pressure Ang, but i did say in another post if the boys decide not to go to uni, then i cant make them. I would just prefer it, me and my partner both know how hard it is in the real world of life, jobs etc. We just want what's best for them, you you obviously do with yours.The children/ adults etc in my family are not encouraged to gain an education or work and its makes me sick to the stomach. My thing is if i put it into they heads thne they'll progreess , whicle if i say no you don't have to go to college etc i really feel they'll end becoming violent criminal / druggie on the street like so many of my family are. Its just for me a way out of the mentality which i know so many people are in.

Don't get me wrong when my son decided to leave 6th form I was disappointed and wished he'd stay on but he's always been very head-strong and knows his own mind. It's worked out for him not going to uni but he's a very confident young man who just seems to talk himself into jobs.

My DD however is completely different, she's shy and studious, she is going to have to rely more on qualifications, luckily she wants to go to university. She will be the first person in our whole extended family to go to university because, like you, further education was never encouraged in our family, it was just expected that you'd leave school at 16 and get a job.

I also think it can be a way to escape, we live in an ex-pit village in the north-east, multiple generations live only streets apart with only a few moving further afield. Most jobs round here are low paid or manual, I've always taught my kids that a good education, common sense and a bit of gumption can open doors and give you freedom. I don't want my kids to live in the next street and struggle for money like us, I want them out there enjoying themselves in a job they like.

Going back to your comment about reading, I'm an avid reader I have been since I was little reading Janet and John at my Granny's table. My house is full of books, I sometimes have to have a cull because there's so many. DS reads all the time but DD, despite probably being the brightest of us all academically, rarely reads maybe 1 book a year. She hated English at school and was adamant that there was no way she'd study Language or Literature A level. Yet she'll spend many happy hours with her nose in a Maths text book which would be my idea of hell! :rotfl:

alec_eiffel

It feels a little like national have a go at Ceridwen day today. We're a broad church, we don't all have to agree, it's nice to see people with passion about the place. The thread has wandered off topic on a number of occasions yet only one poster is held up for this, not fair. Just because a viewpoint isn't popular doesn't mean it shouldn't be aired.

Lindy_-_Loo

gailey wrote: »

Please dont chuckle to loud at my bad taste in programming but noticed few things from watching lots of american programmes.

watch bringing home baby and fe other baby progammes on discovery home and health.
Some of familes seems very ruch but others seem poor and live with their inlaws or parents.
Quite a few seem to have 2jobs as well just to get by or live in houses way small for their family.
Noticed this on extreme home makeover and teen mom.

I watch these too! There is a series on Discoverry home and health called 'Im pregnant and...', there is an episode due on about homeless teens who are pregnant in america and how their welfare system does/doesnt help them.

Great article link Sammy

On the topic of tim tomatoes - home and bargain has 4 400g tins of del monte plum toms at the moment for 99p

icelandic_queen

Here, here!! Well said alec eiffel!!!!