what qualifies you as being disabled?

cyclonebri1

krisskross wrote: »

I don't understand what you are trying to say here.

What did no one do? Should children not have been given drinks?

I probably shouldn't have posted that thread but after having sat roasting in the sun for hours, seen the very messy aftermath of an accident that took someones life and the way people travelling down the opposite carriageway stopped first to help with 1st aid and then later when the traffic had been stopped for hours, to pass out drinks and fruit and stuff out of their weekly shopping. Well it puts things into perspective.

To return home, (I was actually far to upset to do anything else), and put the computor on to find several threads I am following still !!!!!ing about disability for and against proved the trigger.

Not one person, bear in mind this was a major A road at weekend, was whinging about getting about whatever they were doing or when they were going to get there, no one blamed anyone else. :T

If I was out of place I accept that. But then of course idiots like KRISSCROSS open there mouths to question everything and everyones motives, "should the children not have been given drinks":mad::mad::mad:

cadenza82

I'm sorry but I'm still not sure what you're getting at. I'm sorry you had the experience you did yesterday, but I can't entirely see how it relates to this discussion, other than that we should be glad to be alive.

Oldernotwiser

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

I probably shouldn't have posted that thread but after having sat roasting in the sun for hours, seen the very messy aftermath of an accident that took someones life and the way people travelling down the opposite carriageway stopped first to help with 1st aid and then later when the traffic had been stopped for hours, to pass out drinks and fruit and stuff out of their weekly shopping. Well it puts things into perspective.

To return home, (I was actually far to upset to do anything else), and put the computor on to find several threads I am following still !!!!!ing about disability for and against proved the trigger.

Not one person, bear in mind this was a major A road at weekend, was whinging about getting about whatever they were doing or when they were going to get there, no one blamed anyone else. :T

If I was out of place I accept that. But then of course idiots like KRISSCROSS open there mouths to question everything and everyones motives, "should the children not have been given drinks":mad::mad::mad:

Your post was very unclear. I thought you were saying you should be glad to be alive and I also thought that you were decrying the fact that spectators were getting refreshments.

devildog

dktreesa I think you are correct regarding hierachy and disabilities
Breast Cancer Survivor I also believe that people are more receptive to physical disabilites as opposed to mental ones.

I do not like the rulings on 'fluctuating' conditions as I believe that they do not reflect the true picture of the illlnes suffered. If only if it was so easy to get a disease to go into remission. Outwardly ds looks 'normal' albeit he looks far younger than his actual age and is seriously underweight.
I guess until you have walked in someone elses shoes, you never fully understand the ramifications of an illness/disability.

Indie_Kid

Breast_Cancer_Survivor wrote: »

I think that physical disabilities are seen by some to be more genuine than mental health disabilities.

I think it depends on the physical disability. I once got told by someone from SS that visual impairment is seen (pun not intended) as an older person's disability. I've been challenged a few times too about my disabilities.

I've also had people say things like "you're lucky to be disabled", "You can't be that disabled if you're only on LRC & LRM; I'm much more disabled than you because I'm on HRM & MRC" and "you don't have that disability" (that was SENCO at college - their excuse being "we've never heard of it; therefore it can't exist") - they went as far as to send me for dyslexia testing; despite me adamant that my reading difficulties are VI related and not learning disability related. (I only agreed to be tested to shut them up)

Thankfully, one of my friends (who has Aspegers) is a lot less judgemental. He will ask me questions and make suggestions; but they're sensible and non-judgemental.

pipkin71

dmg24 wrote: »

On another thread today some told me I should think myself lucky because I hadn't got a broken arm. Whilst I would not wish any injury on anyone, I'd much rather have a short term problem than a long term condition that is never going to get better.

The other classic I keep being told is 'It should be easy for you because you are intelligent'. Maybe if I was thick I wouldn't be aware of how much I have lost?

I agree about the hierarchy of conditions, which does not just apply to lay perceptions. If you look at research funding it is focused on specific areas, often quite disproportionately in comparison to those who are actually affected by the condition.

A short term problem would most definitely be the better option.

I'm now seeing a different consultant and although the prognosis is the same, I feel much more confident with their plans for managing my disability. It's surprising what a few words, and the way they are spoken, can do to someone

I also agree with the hierarchy of conditions and research funding.

Indie_Kid

dmg24 wrote: »

The other classic I keep being told is 'It should be easy for you because you are intelligent'. Maybe if I was thick I wouldn't be aware of how much I have lost?

Er, what?!

I agree about the hierarchy of conditions, which does not just apply to lay perceptions. If you look at research funding it is focused on specific areas, often quite disproportionately in comparison to those who are actually affected by the condition.

I agree. There's hardly any awareness about 2 of my conditions and one of the charities (not RNIB; although they do sometimes work with the other charity) is doing an awful lot of research (medication and other treatments, plus iris recognition and something about 3D) and it seems difficult for them to get funding.

krisskross

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

I probably shouldn't have posted that thread but after having sat roasting in the sun for hours, seen the very messy aftermath of an accident that took someones life and the way people travelling down the opposite carriageway stopped first to help with 1st aid and then later when the traffic had been stopped for hours, to pass out drinks and fruit and stuff out of their weekly shopping. Well it puts things into perspective.

To return home, (I was actually far to upset to do anything else), and put the computor on to find several threads I am following still !!!!!ing about disability for and against proved the trigger.

Not one person, bear in mind this was a major A road at weekend, was whinging about getting about whatever they were doing or when they were going to get there, no one blamed anyone else. :T

If I was out of place I accept that. But then of course idiots like KRISSCROSS open there mouths to question everything and everyones motives, "should the children not have been given drinks":mad::mad::mad:

You know very little about me. As an A&E senior nurse I have seen far more sudden death in a couple of shifts than you will ever see in your lifetime. When you have had the unenviable task of getting parents to identify the bodies of their young children thrown from a car because they had no seatbelts on and actually been part of their grief then you can pontificate. The memory of that particular experience is still as clear as it was 15 years ago.

I bet you will have forgotten the very little you actually saw in a month or so.So do not presume to lecture me when you write an extremely ambiguous post that I was not the only one to misunderstand.

And personal insults and 'angry' smilies quite frankly just add to my opinion of you.

pipkin71

krisskross wrote: »

When you have had the unenviable task of getting parents to identify the bodies of their young children thrown from a car because they had no seatbelts on and actually been part of their grief then you can pontificate. The memory of that particular experience is still as clear as it was 15 years ago.

I wanted to be a children's nurse as a young child, but I know I'm not emotionally strong enough to ever have been able to deal with something like that

I've also considered tutoring on a children's ward, but know I would become too emotionally attached and death would have a long lasting affect on me.

Not a nice experience kk

cyclonebri1

dcmbarton wrote: »

I'm sorry but I'm still not sure what you're getting at. I'm sorry you had the experience you did yesterday, but I can't entirely see how it relates to this discussion, other than that we should be glad to be alive.

Then got the message :T:T:T

A stuation like that does put things into perspective, it brings out the best in people. And yes I probably shouldn't have posted but I did, as to me at least it puts the petty, pedantic quibles of some of the regulars here to shame.