Housing Benefits for young parents.

sp1987

viktory wrote: »

I love that the 'contraception failed' line is frequently trotted out. As I have posted more than the oral combined contraceptive pill is extremely reliable - used correctly.

Mine failed after 6 years of taking it at the same time every single day... 99.2% successful I was told when I was given it. When I found out I was pregnant and said 'I thought this was 99.2%' the GP informed me that it was 92% successful based on a one year test period?! I.e. that 92% of women on it in a one year period all taking it correctly would not become pregnant, the other 8% would. I'm not sure I believe him but if it is true...I had my 6 years and should be grateful! Lol. One could say running the 8% gauntlet for 6 years was a 48% chance, lol.

viktory

sp1987 wrote: »

Mine failed after 6 years of taking it at the same time every single day... 99.2% successful I was told when I was given it. When I found out I was pregnant and said 'I thought this was 99.2%' the GP informed me that it was 92% successful based on a one year test period?! I.e. that 92% of women on it in a one year period all taking it correctly would not become pregnant, the other 8% would. I'm not sure I believe him but if it is true...I had my 6 years and should be grateful! Lol. One could say running the 8% gauntlet for 6 years was a 48% chance, lol.

And I took it for many, many years and never had a failure. The stats generally show a 0.03% failure rate, so that is three females in one thousand. Of course, some unlucky sod is going to be one of the 0.03%, but there are so many on MSE that cite this as a reason for pregnancy one could only assume the failure rate is nearer 50%!!!

Besides which, a young couple such as this should really be using condoms to prevent STI's as well as the pill.

Fiddlestick

Carlbrown wrote: »

It really isnt your decision what your taxes get spent on and i hope that one day you are in a position where u need to turn to other people for help and small minded people like yourself refuse to give any useful advice.

My partner and I won't ever be in that situation as we both believe it would be wrong and irresponsible to bring a child into this world when we as parents do not have the financial resources and stability that would be required to raise a child without having to rely on the taxpayer.

We would like to be be parents, but we know we cannot afford it just now. We are responsible enough that we would opt for a termination rather than bring a child up in the world with anything less than a great upbringing.

debrag

dmg24 wrote: »

Two points:

1. What are we going to do with all these people that are doing health and beauty courses? It seems to be the course of choice for everyone who did not get good grades and/ or does not know what else to do.

I could list a few from my school who went onto these courses lol Most are hairdresses someones just qualified as a 'tan theorpist' (and yes I can't spel it lol)

ladyrider260

Carlbrown wrote: »

You, personally arnt paying for anything, thats like me getting a job and paying taxes and going to the hospital and having a bash at any unemployed people sayin "Im paying for your healthcare''

It really isnt your decision what your taxes get spent on and i hope that one day you are in a position where u need to turn to other people for help and small minded people like yourself refuse to give any useful advice.

Actually, you could. It's todays taxpayer who is paying for anyone claiming benefits.
When you post on these forums you have to expect opinions whether you like them or not. Seriously, getting defensive fans the flames.

Because your girlfriends father owns the property it's very unlikely you'll get help. They ask on the forms if you or your partner are related to the landlord. Lie at your peril as they do check up on this, I know a couple of people who have tried this and been caught out!

I'm not sure how far along into her pregnancy your girlfriend is as I have not read the entire thread, but I worked up until 38wks when my employer finally told me to go home!
I'm sure one of you could get a part time job to help, you'd probably still be entitled to housing benefit and may even be better off.

Carlbrown_2

I didnt come to this forum to be judged, none of you know me as a person therefor you cant assume im going to be a benefits scrounger forever, people make mistakes, it happens, everyone does it, and some people need help with dealing with the consequences which is why benefits are there, for people who make mistakes, i have my own problems now and im going to do whatever i can to get to a position where i can earn my own money rather than rely on "other people" to provide for my child for maybe 1 month, until i get a job, but i cant see why people have to give there pointless opinions i could understand if it was constructive advice but its pointless negative opinions which arnt any help to anybody, what is the point in trying to make me feel bad for having sex at the age of 17? does it give you some sort of satisfaction?

ladyrider260

Carlbrown wrote: »

I didnt come to this forum to be judged, none of you know me as a person therefor you cant assume im going to be a benefits scrounger forever, people make mistakes, it happens, everyone does it, and some people need help with dealing with the consequences which is why benefits are there, for people who make mistakes, i have my own problems now and im going to do whatever i can to get to a position where i can earn my own money rather than rely on "other people" to provide for my child for maybe 1 month, until i get a job, but i cant see why people have to give there pointless opinions i could understand if it was constructive advice but its pointless negative opinions which arnt any help to anybody, what is the point in trying to make me feel bad for having sex at the age of 17? does it give you some sort of satisfaction?

Carl, you'll spend most of your life being judged. It's a sad fact.

Benefits are there to help those who have fallen into hardship, but they don't discriminate on why you've fallen into hardship. I wouldn't say that a man being made redundant is a mistake, so that's an unfair statement. I'm not trying to make you feel bad, don't think that.
You do the best you can - I wish you both luck.

Wee_Willy_Harris

We have a young lad looking for some help and guidance regarding rent, which has been given. Despite that not being the advice he wanted to hear, he has accepted it politely and raised reasonable arguments in order to fully explore the issue he faces.

Despite this, he has also been subject to some quite negative and pointless comments about what he should, or shouldn't, have done in the past as well as some very negative predictions. Even these comments have been accepted with a certain amount of maturity and grace which belies his young age.

The OP clearly has some ambition which, thankfully, this thread will not change. However, I do think that some of the more negative posters should remember that the OP, and probably his child, will probably be paying for your retirement at some point. But I'm sure he won't be beating you up over that. I guess he isn't as small minded as some of his detractors.

sp1987

viktory wrote: »

And I took it for many, many years and never had a failure. The stats generally show a 0.03% failure rate, so that is three females in one thousand. Of course, some unlucky sod is going to be one of the 0.03%, but there are so many on MSE that cite this as a reason for pregnancy one could only assume the failure rate is nearer 50%!!!

Besides which, a young couple such as this should really be using condoms to prevent STI's as well as the pill.

There are not posts from all the people who haven't become pregnant on the pill though, as they have no reason to say anything. You didn't until just then as it became relevant. But I do agree many people will not take it or take it wrongly resulting in pregnancy. My mother managed years on the pill too and she used to tell me how she often forgot to take it at all, let alone at the same time each day (I was mortified!). Though we do have a familial history of difficulty conceiving. She was married with a home and a full time job so I guess no real problem if she had started to breed.

I entirely agree on the STI/condom front, but they do split so aren't really much more than an extra security. I still feel it is neccessary for medical practitioners to be clear on exactly the rate at which they claim a drug to be successful if they have any information on it. In this instance there is plenty of information so to be vague or inaccurate (at least one of the figures I was given must have been!) isn't brilliant.

Either way, providing you can support your children emotionally, financially, practically and intellectually in a stable setting it doesn't matter so much. It's just a shame so many people fail to and yet are the ones having most of the children.

shop-to-drop

I have three sons and will be drumming into them never ever believe a girl is on the pill. Always take precautions yourself. I doubt your girlfriend was taking the pill or taking it properly anyway. It never hurts to be extra careful, better for yourself and more respectful to the girl too. At least you seem to be wanting to stick by her but I do think between you, your girlfriend and all the sets of parents you should be able to support yourselves, it's a shame my opinion is thought of as so old fashioned these days.