Reporting a private seller on ebay who should be a business. How!

Llyllyll

To simply reply to your original question: http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/tax-evasion/index.htm

Chunkymonkey32

Although this is my first post on this site, i have been reading for a while and felt i must respond to this post. Im shocked that so many of you think its acceptable for someone to buy and sell items (which makes him/her a business) and not declare it for tax purposes or register as a business on ebay. According to the opening post this person makes a few hundred pounds a month - sounds like quite a healthy income to me.Ive got my own business and I work 6 days a week to pay the bills and make ends meet... i pay all the taxes im supposed to.. why should some people be able to get away with paying nothing? Where are the boundaries between earning a bit on the side and earning a full time wage? £100 a week? £200a week? £500 a week? Maybe i shouldnt declare all my sales and work cash in hand only? If we all did that the country would be in a worse state than its in now.. Sounds to me that theres alot of you on here the should be reported for `earning a bit on the side`...

As for selling birthday presents, this is a moral issue which i also agree is wrong.. why should the opening post spend her hard earned money only to have `the friend` selling it? Ive noticed some of you saying why buy her a present then? because im sure if a present wasnt brought then `the friend` would probably get upset and annoyed .. it sounds like a no win situation

In a world of dodgy dealings, people working cash in hand and effectivly stealing from the taxpayer, its nice to see that theres still some people out there with morals - a friend or not - by not declaring earnings your doing wrong.. well done Singingsister - i think you should be applauded and not attacked...

zakaya

I say good on her life is hard and if you can make some extra money why not.

I would love to be able to buy and sell things on eBay but after helping my brother out, writing cheques, accepting parcels etc and he even used my PC for shill bidding (I didn't even know what this was at the time!) He did promise to compensate me but this never happened and anyway I was happy to help. I received a warning from eBay about what was going on and was suspended for a short time but my brother
said it was a misunderstanding and stupidly I believed him. I've not been kicked off eBay and even though I've tried to explain I was only helping my brother out but all they say is he's a banned member (didn't know this either!) and he would have to contact them to sort it out, as they think we are one person. He says his account has been 'reinstated' and so should have mine. I've since learnt he keeps opening new accounts. The moral of this story is be careful who you help out as most people are only out for themselves.

MummyandPaige

I have to say that I am a little suprised. ok, so the OP obviously has some other gripe with the friend, but for all of you to take that stance is unbelievable. How many posts have there bee nwhere people have said "well I only earn £20 a week so I won't bother declaring" only to be jumped upon by just above everyone preaching how important it is and how much of a cheat they are for not declaring.

The mystery shopping and survey threads in particular are very hot on putting people in the stocks for it, so why the change of heart? because it is not someone spilling that they don't pay but someone worried about a friend not paying? I only earn £50-60 a week but am declaring even though it is only a little its not worth getting in trouble and being fined.

On the otherside of things, I do think that the OP would be better gathering info on tax issues and taking them to her friend as if she is only clearing a couple of hundred then she won't be paying tax on it anyway BUT she also won't be getting in trouble for not declaring it either and with friends like you I doubt it would be long before someone reported her anyway.

Boozer

MummyandPaige wrote: »

I only earn £50-60 a week but am declaring even though it is only a little its not worth getting in trouble and being fined.

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My stance is that this is your choice to declare, if you do not declare and you get into trouble, then it is all your responsibility and you will have to deal with the consequences, but i for sure would not be reporting you for it, as somebody has said before, find the information and give it to the person, how they deal with it is up to them.

Harry_Flashman

MummyandPaige wrote: »

I have to say that I am a little suprised. ok, so the OP obviously has some other gripe with the friend, but for all of you to take that stance is unbelievable. How many posts have there bee nwhere people have said "well I only earn £20 a week so I won't bother declaring" only to be jumped upon by just above everyone preaching how important it is and how much of a cheat they are for not declaring.

I don't have an argument with anyone making a few quid on the side. After all, the taxman robs us all so there's nothing wrong (in my personal opinion) with getting a small one over on him.

My major gripe with the OP is the way she's looking to stab someone she calls a 'friend' in the back. Now that really is despicable.

Chunkymonkey32

Harry_Flashman wrote: »

I don't have an argument with anyone making a few quid on the side. After all, the taxman robs us all so there's nothing wrong (in my personal opinion) with getting a small one over on him.

My major gripe with the OP is the way she's looking to stab someone she calls a 'friend' in the back. Now that really is despicable.

And is the friend not stabbing the OP in the back by selling (what im sure is) a thoughtful gift? Or indeed not stabbing all taxpayers in the back by not declaring their earnings?

geordie_joe

Chunkymonkey32 wrote: »

And is the friend not stabbing the OP in the back by selling (what im sure is) a thoughtful gift?

Perhaps the gift was rubbish, or totally unsuitable? Perhaps she sold the gift and bought something that she wanted more.

Chunkymonkey32 wrote: »

Or indeed not stabbing all taxpayers in the back by not declaring their earnings?

Good point, she is making a few hundred pounds per month. I don't know exactly how much tax she should be paying, but lets say it is £100 per month.

There are around 65 million people in this country, so my share of that tax would be one 65 millionth of £100. I'm not sure how much that is, I did try to work it out but my calculator didn't have enough digits to put all the zeros after the decimal point.

Anyway, she's stabbing me in the back to the tune of one 65 millionth of £100 per month. The pain I feel over this is equal to the amount of money I am losing.

Chunkymonkey32

geordie_joe wrote: »

Good point, she is making a few hundred pounds per month. I don't know exactly how much tax she should be paying, but lets say it is £100 per month.

There are around 65 million people in this country, so my share of that tax would be one 65 millionth of £100. I'm not sure how much that is, I did try to work it out but my calculator didn't have enough digits to put all the zeros after the decimal point.

Anyway, she's stabbing me in the back to the tune of one 65 millionth of £100 per month. The pain I feel over this is equal to the amount of money I am losing.

and what if 65million people in the uk took this attitude? Why should the good support the bad?

bubblegum26

singingsister wrote: »

Hi guys,

I know someone who buys stuff at car boot sales to sell on E-Bay. She ALWAYS has stuff on E-Bay selling and quite frankly a lot of people that know her are fed up.

Fed up mainly because she sells all the birthday pressies she is bought on E-Bay. She does the same with her 2 year old daughter's pressies too. Sells them on ebay for a profit and then buys the same thing for literally pennies at a boot sale.

She also stores all the "stock" at her rented house, which must be a breach of her tenancy agreement. We're probably looking at 50 items a month. Sometimes she can make a few hundred pound a month.

I also presume as she is buying stuff to resell it, she should be registered as a business with HMRC.

She has angered alot of people that know her with how she conducts her "business" and we want to put a stop to it.

Advise please?

You seem to know quite alot about her BUSINESS therefore I would imagine you are her friend, or at least you were - it will be her lookout if she gets caught but really what skin is it off your nose, hows it effecting your life apart from maybe your jealous that you can't do the same thing....... if it was my friend I'd have a quiet word explain the risks shes taking and then let her get on with it just maybe its the only way she can make ends meet, you report her and then what you could be the cause of all sorts of problems maybe even bankcrupsy.

I don't condone this kinda thing I work pay my taxes etc but really if she is buying and selling off carboot sales onto ebay I can't imagine shes making much after shes paid back the money for items, fees etc.......... Ok the pressie things abit out of order but maybe u just have to accept your not very good at picking pressies or maybe she is so desperate for money she don't have a choice.....

My opinion not that it counts for much is to have a quiet word she might really be in need of a friend