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PLEASE HELP!!!! Benefits??

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  • POPPYOSCAR
    POPPYOSCAR Posts: 14,902 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Sorry Op I cant give you any benefits advice as I dont know much about them, just want to wish you well for the future and hope that despite the difficult circumstances you find yourself in right now, that you enjoy your baby.
  • Oldernotwiser
    Oldernotwiser Posts: 37,425 Forumite
    Don't pay any attention to the self-righteous half-wits that frequent these boards.
    .

    The only people being self righteous on here are those who say that someone shouldn't consider all options because they take a stance on abortion without giving it due consideration. (Mind you, I do wonder whether their views would be the same if there weren't the safety net of having a home and income funded by the state!)

    Anyway, having raised what I thought was a relevant issue, I will leave this thread to those who are giving specific advice as it wasn't my intention to take it so far off topic.
  • debrag
    debrag Posts: 3,426 Forumite
    edited 30 June 2010 at 6:33AM
    Of course, that's a novel idea. Perhaps we could set up *special homes* in which to send our embarrasing young pregant single women, and have their babies removed at birth.

    Or alternatively we could set up workhouses, so if they insisted (using those pesky human rights laws) on keeping their babies, we could work the pair of them to early death instead.

    Wasn't the last government looking at shaving young single parents or couples live in a group type home instead of automatically getting a council house?
  • viktory
    viktory Posts: 7,635 Forumite
    Deepmistrust, how refreshing it is to read something typed by someone with a good command of the English language

    LOL, pompous prat is what springs to my mind when I read his/her posts.
  • Deepmistrust
    Deepmistrust Posts: 1,205 Forumite
    The only people being self righteous on here are those who say that someone shouldn't consider all options because they take a stance on abortion without giving it due consideration. (Mind you, I do wonder whether their views would be the same if there weren't the safety net of having a home and income funded by the state!)

    Anyway, having raised what I thought was a relevant issue, I will leave this thread to those who are giving specific advice as it wasn't my intention to take it so far off topic.


    So would you suggest to other posters on here, that, when they find themselves in hard times, instead of asking for benefit advice on the benefit board of a forum, they should instead consider giving up their children for adoption? Or worse?

    Assuming you answer no to the above (though nothing would surprise me) what gives you the idea that derailing the topic to tell a poster what she could indeed view as killing her unborn baby will not be subject to the criticism it so deserves, and you think that won't make you look like a self-righteous, clueless, most vile and most pointless contributor?
    All over the place, from the popular culture to the propaganda system, there is constant pressure to make people feel that they are helpless, that the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume.
  • Deepmistrust
    Deepmistrust Posts: 1,205 Forumite
    debrag wrote: »
    Wasn't the last government looking at shaving young single parents or couples live in a group type home instead of automatically getting a council house?

    Shaving young single parents? I'm not following what you are saying. I'm assuming you do not mean they were going to legislate for a hair removal program.
    All over the place, from the popular culture to the propaganda system, there is constant pressure to make people feel that they are helpless, that the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume.
  • Deepmistrust
    Deepmistrust Posts: 1,205 Forumite
    viktory wrote: »
    LOL, pompous prat is what springs to my mind when I read his/her posts.

    I'd only be pompous, if I didn't know my topic, and if anyone could actually debunk any of my factual statements. I'll wait while you want to give it a go.

    As for 'prat'. Well, like I explained to the other pointless person before you, chucking childish insults around, , tend to say more about you, than me.

    Worryingly, I assume you to otherwise be a grown adult. I'm glad you felt the need to log on in order to offer that enlightening post though.
    All over the place, from the popular culture to the propaganda system, there is constant pressure to make people feel that they are helpless, that the only role they can have is to ratify decisions and to consume.
  • amus
    amus Posts: 5,635 Forumite
    mitchaa wrote: »
    Not sure if it's a troll post or not, but benefit of the doubt.

    You will get...

    Child benefit of £20.30pw (Has been frozen for 3yrs)
    Child tax credit of £54.73pw (Baby element of tax credits will be scrapped in April 11)
    You will get a 1 off surestart maternity award of £500 to buy some of the babies goods, pram, cot etc
    You will qualify for a £190 health in pregancy grant payable after 25wks pregnant. (This is being scrapped at the end of this year)

    You will get £64pw in income support, you will also qualify for council tax benefit and housing benefit.

    So that equates to around £140pw in your hand and living rent and council tax free. Quite a significant drop in income if you are used to a £25k income.

    If she's entitled to maternity allowance then the income support element (and all the associated benefits) wont come into it until the MA has finished (as far as I am aware). Not 100% though so please correct me if Im wrong.
  • viktory
    viktory Posts: 7,635 Forumite
    I'd only be pompous, if I didn't know my topic, and if anyone could actually debunk any of my factual statements. I'll wait while you want to give it a go.

    As for 'prat'. Well, like I explained to the other pointless person before you, chucking childish insults around, , tend to say more about you, than me.

    Worryingly, I assume you to otherwise be a grown adult. I'm glad you felt the need to log on in order to offer that enlightening post though.

    The problem is, you don't actually know your topic. You have previously stated:
    Even the most basic biology lesson, shows that it takes two to make a baby. How very sexist of you to think that contraception is a womans job.

    While I will agree that it takes two to make a baby, considering it is the woman that will actually become impregnated and will have to deal with the consequences, it makes sense that she takes extra care to ensure that pregnancy does not occur. The male can, and often does, walk away. Therefore, I would refute your statement that it is sexist to suggest that contraception is a woman's job and suggest instead that it is really rather sensible.

    You then said:
    Besides, not all pregnancies are planned, huge numbers even involve failed contraception. Would have thought that was obvious.


    Contraception is actually extremely efficient - assuming it is used correctly. The majority of contraception failures are because contraception is not used every time, and it is not used according to instructions every time. Some stats for you:

    Oral contraception: 0.3% failure rate
    Dep Injection: 0.3% failure rate
    Implant: 0.05% failure rate
    patch: 0.3% failure rate
    Male condom (without spermicide) 2%.

    Another site suggested that out of 100 women that took that contraceptive pill correctly less than one would become pregnant and that out of 100 women using male condoms correctly only 3 will become pregnant. That is not, by anyone's standards, huge numbers.

    Finally, you saw fit to pass comment that I and another poster are chucking childish insults around. Pot, kettle?
    Don't pay any attention to the self-righteous half-wits that frequent these boards.
  • POPPYOSCAR
    POPPYOSCAR Posts: 14,902 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Why do the benefit boards so often degenerate into a slanging match?

    The OP asked for advice on benefits and nothing else, surely that is what she should be given.
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