New attacks on I.B claimants

Prinzessilein

krisskross wrote: »

I honestly thought that the Atos people carrying out the medicals were medical professionals. And what if you were saying you had 3 different conditions, would you expect to be seen by 3 specialists? What if one said you couldn't work and 2 said you could?

Some ATOS people are doctors, some are nurses, some are medical professionals (eg: midwives) and some are 'medically-trained' which can mean that they have completed an 'approved' course (and I have no idea what courses they may be!)

I have a number of conditons, but I see one specialist who deals with most of them. Anything else my GP deals with. I don't see that 3 specialists would be necessary - but someone who is a qualified doctor and a specialist in the main condition should suffice at a fair medical. Although, I would like to see a simpler system whereby my GP and Specialist are believed and can complete the necessary forms!

WhiteHorse

Prinzessilein wrote: »

I have no problem whatsoever with having a medical. I am quite happy to have one every year - if the government wishes.

Exactly. Genuine people rarely object.

However, I object to the current system in which non-medical people can overrule my GP and my specialist.

Agreed. It is unjust.

It also begs the question ... if a medical professional says you cannot work, but some penpusher overrules them, and you are then forced into a job and injured as a result ... who is liable?

As to my earlier remark about ATOS employees receiving a bonus ....this information was given to me by someone who worked for ATOS.

I don't know about ATOS, but SHAW TRUST (a charity gone bad if there ever was one), staff certainly do get bonuses.

WhiteHorse

Prinzessilein wrote: »

Some ATOS people are [...] 'medically-trained' which can mean that they have completed an 'approved' course ...

That would be an interesting line of enquiry. In due course it will probably make an interesting lawsuit too.

Indie_Kid

Aputsiaq wrote: »

Anyone who is claiming DLA for depression or fairly mild to medium AS disorders need worry because the benefit will be tightened up, along with the criteria for claims.
They messed up big time and they have to get that money back somehow.

Thanks for this. Very much appreciated.:mad:

WhiteHorse

Breast_Cancer_Survivor wrote:

It seems to me that there is a gang on here admittedly there is only 4 or 5 of you in that gang that like to try to bully people that you personally deem not ill enough to be on sickness/disability even though the DWP does.

Yes, there is a coterie who seem to think like this.

As far as I can make out, they seem to think that disabled people are somehow preventing them from becoming rich and successful.

krisskross

WhiteHorse wrote: »

Yes, there is a coterie who seem to think like this.

coterie

n. exclusive set of persons

I do hope you are including me in this.:j

Indie_Kid

Prinzessilein wrote: »

I have a number of conditons, but I see one specialist who deals with most of them. Anything else my GP deals with.

It's the same for me. The other conditions I have, I don't see anyone for.

krisskross

Breast_Cancer_Survivor wrote: »

I'm autistic & suffering from major depression after spending the a 1/3 of my life waiting for my cancer to come back & 4 years fighting for the treatment that other people seem to be automatically entitled to.

This is actually very sad.

My mother had the most radical mastectomy for cancer I have ever seen in my life. I have seen a fair few whilst working on a female surgical ward.

Mum was in her late 30s and was left with no flesh or muscle at all on the right side of her chest. Huge hollow in her armpit where all the axillary nodes were taken. She suffered with lymphodoema in her right arm for the rest of her life. No possibility of reconstuctive surgery....there was nothing left to work with. She also had a complete hysterectomy and oopherectomy as the reproductive organs and their hormones were thought to be connected.

However she was back at work within 6 months, after her radiotherapy was completed. She was a nursing auxiliary and continued working until she was 65. Dad died when she was just turned 60 but she met a new bloke who adored her.

She obviously was aware of the need for vigilance about lumps and bumps but never let the cancer fear rule her life. Her attitude was that she had dealt with it once and would again if necessary.

I often wonder of her life would have been different if she had been given enough money that she didn't need to work.

Trialia

I have no objection to proving I'm ill. But I do object to proving the existence of three major incurable conditions in an arduous process once a year, as it's been for me until now because I'm under 25 - even though there is no cure for any of them and hardly any treatments! - and to someone who has no clue what they're doing.

I don't trust ATOS at all, because they show very clear lack of knowledge on my health problems and they don't even seem to bother to research before I come in. I don't expect to be seen by a specialist - I know they are too expensive - but I sure as anything expect them to at least look it up on a medical website or something before dragging me in for another 'medical' - because when they don't, it is a miserable process of trying to explain everything and being hampered by my cognitive impairments in face-to-face situations.

As I said before, the whole process of being re-evaluated and re-evaluated for DLA and IB makes me suicidal. It is already very difficult to get either of those benefits - making it more of a trial is only going to help the people who have the health and energy to cope with it, which is to say the people who fake it, and harm those of us who do not!

Breast_Cancer_Survivor

krisskross wrote: »

This is actually very sad.

My mother had the most radical mastectomy for cancer I have ever seen in my life. I have seen a fair few whilst working on a female surgical ward.

Mum was in her late 30s and was left with no flesh or muscle at all on the right side of her chest. Huge hollow in her armpit where all the axillary nodes were taken. She suffered with lymphodoema in her right arm for the rest of her life. No possibility of reconstuctive surgery....there was nothing left to work with. She also had a complete hysterectomy and oopherectomy as the reproductive organs and their hormones were thought to be connected.

However she was back at work within 6 months, after her radiotherapy was completed. She was a nursing auxiliary and continued working until she was 65. Dad died when she was just turned 60 but she met a new bloke who adored her.

She obviously was aware of the need for vigilance about lumps and bumps but never let the cancer fear rule her life. Her attitude was that she had dealt with it once and would again if necessary.

I often wonder of her life would have been different if she had been given enough money that she didn't need to work.

Was your mother autistic?

If not how can you compare us?

For the record whilst my surgeon was cutting off a perfectly healthy breast that had never had an indication of having cancer I was a single mum to 3 young children, 2 of whom are autistic.

How can you judge me? Have you been through exactly the same experience's as me? Are you me?

Exactly no so you have no idea. You can sit there & say well I wouldn't be doing this or I wouldn't of done that but you don't know what you would do/feel as the samething hasn't happened to you.

I was diagnosed with breast cancer when I was 24 years old. I was a single mum & had a 2 year old & a 6 month old to take care off.

Obviously the fact I got depressed must mean that i'm weak minded despite the fact that other people also get depressed for no apparent reason.

I had to live for 9 years with constant mammograms, ultrasounds, biopsies & MRI's which all took their toll on my mental health.

I am also autistic so feel more anxious/depressed about things anyway.

It seems to me that you older people have a chip on your shoulder & appear to be jealous of us younger people who have illness/disabilities. Your own live must be very sad if all you have to do is try to make people that are already struggling with mental health conditions actually feel worse.