really need some advice

kez1234

i have just now been told that if i remove the allegation my son can be put back in school if i do not do this they will try and put him in a NAUGHTY SCHOOL, i am fuming, the school aren't allowed to talk to me so i am on my own:mad:

BitterAndTwisted

To be fair, it doesn't sound like they would be threatening to send a child to "Naughty School" if they had been completely and utterly blameless to date. Have there been other problems which your child has caused in school before?

kez1234

let me tell you what happened to straighten things out, my son went to school monday morning he went to vertical tutor and was sitting with all his friends, he was told to move to the group that was a year above him, he hadn't done nothing to warrant this, so my son refused and was sent out the classroom, the teacher came out and yold him to wait while this teacher walked over the other side of the school to get a teacher in solitary to collect him, myself and 5 others are questioning why this teacher didn't take my son there himself, the bell rang and my son then took himself off to his next lesson, but this one teacher was following him, so he went a long way because he wanted to know if this teacher was following him, this teacher has threatened my son before, and my son was moved form 2 months ago because of him, my son then got to the top of the stairs to go to next lesson, and the teacher shouted at everyone to get into their class, he grabbed my son and said not you, he had my son in a corner and put his hand around his neck and said do you know what you have done?? my son grabbed his arm away and ran to reception to tell them and shouted back at the teacher do you know what you have done? my son asked if he could ring home and told the receptionist, then my son was taken to make a statement and the 3 children that saw it had to do the same, he was then bought home and i wasn't told anything, i was advised to call the police which i did, i got a call from school to say they had suspended him for 22 days and now i have been told he can go back to normal education if we drop the allegation......

kez1234

regardless of wether a child is naughty or not which mine isn't to say if i drop the allegation he can go back and if i don't he will go to naughty school???

pimento

Fang wrote: »

There's clearly a lot we don't know and I doubt very much that we're getting the whole, unedited story. There is a type of parent that breeds the type of child that causes problems and pushes teachers to extremes, and to me the OP is coming across as that type of parent.

This.

The OP is doing her son no favours at all. He'll just grow up to think he's untouchable (if you'll pardon the pun).

kez1234

i would like to know what you mean by that? my son wasn't doing anything? it's statements like that, that get people in trouble in the first place

kez1234

in the last 3 weeks, this school has expelled 6 children, the headteacher slapped a year 10 and nothing again was done, and everytime the school is asked for the cctv cameras the school says it isn't working, imo what i have been told is blackmail.....

BitterAndTwisted

I think you need a full and frank discussion with the school about what has happened to date. Until you do that you will not have all of the facts before you: all you have at the moment is the story from your child and possibly their school-chums. Anyone who accepts at face-value anything a child says about anything that happens in school is in danger of being misled or being given partial-truths. The school's actions do not sound like ones used in dealing with a child who has never been in trouble before.

pigpen

Fang wrote: »

The press wouldn't touch it. They can't, until the facts have been established and the teacher charged. The stakes are too high. Local papers cannot afford to take the risk.

There's clearly a lot we don't know and I doubt very much that we're getting the whole, unedited story. There is a type of parent that breeds the type of child that causes problems and pushes teachers to extremes, and to me the OP is coming across as that type of parent.

They did a good enough job with several other local unproven reports.. resulting in one very very good teacher being unable to get a job anywhere despite the child withdrawing all allegations and saying it was a complete lie because the teacher had '!!!!!! her off!'

moromir wrote: »

And what do you do when there is one exit out of the room and the little toad is stood in front of it waving a knife and threatening to kill you?

Say 'go for it shortcakes!' and stand well away and probably ring the office for assistance..

Just one of many similar experiences one of my best friends has had to endure in her relatively short teaching career.

but did she beat said child?

No other employer in the world would allow its staff to endure the abuse, and that is what it is, abuse, that schools allow their staff to be subjected to. There is a complete lack of support for the teachers when they report it because either a) theyre supposed to 'just deal with it' or b) some parent goes down the school and rants and raves about how their kid is an angel and they have their 'rights' and the school caves in and the kid is right back in the classroom the next day, with all the more attitude because they got away with it.

The NHS do!

I was always very very careful to make sure the teachers weren't being undermined even on the occasions they were in the wrong..

You bring up the recent event of the teacher that nearly killed a pupil, that boy is reported to have subjected the teacher to a systematic routine of bullying. Violence is never acceptable but for someone to be reduced to even thinking about doing that, let alone doing it, his life must have been made miserable by this boy and his friends who were 'having a laugh'.

Exacty.. but the child was in the care of the adult he should have done something BEFORE it got to that point.

kez1234 wrote: »

let me tell you what happened to straighten things out, my son went to school monday morning he went to vertical tutor and was sitting with all his friends, he was told to move to the group that was a year above him, he hadn't done nothing to warrant this, Who said? so my son refused and was sent out the classroom, the teacher came out and yold him to wait while this teacher walked over the other side of the school to get a teacher in solitary to collect him, myself and 5 others are questioning why this teacher didn't take my son there himself, because he cannot leave a classroom unattended maybe?! the bell rang and my son then took himself off to his next lesson, but this one teacher was following him, so he went a long way because he wanted to know if this teacher was following him, this teacher has threatened my son before, and my son was moved form 2 months ago because of him, my son then got to the top of the stairs to go to next lesson, and the teacher shouted at everyone to get into their class, he grabbed my son and said not you, he had my son in a corner and put his hand around his neck and said do you know what you have done?? my son grabbed his arm away and ran to reception to tell them and shouted back at the teacher do you know what you have done? my son asked if he could ring home and told the receptionist, then my son was taken to make a statement and the 3 children that saw it had to do the same, he was then bought home and i wasn't told anything, i was advised to call the police which i did, i got a call from school to say they had suspended him for 22 days and now i have been told he can go back to normal education if we drop the allegation......

I cannot see why a teacher would ask a child to move without a good reason.. they were talking/not listening/messing about, evening up group sizes etc.. it sounds very much like your son thought he was untouchable and behaved inappropriately in the first instance.. refusing to do what a teacher asked because he didn't like the reason or whatever.. that isn't his decision to make!

I wouldn't drop the allegation though.. irrespective of what had happened it needs to be on the teachers record. Ask them on what grounds they think you should drop them.. is it because your son is a PITA? Is it because they have evidence suggesting it is false? Do they think you are lying and the teacher wouldn't do that?

And they cannot send them to 'naughty school' without a LOT of extra involvement from outside agencies.. it isn't something a school can just do.. otherwise half the schools here would have no children in them!!

Tell them to try it..

pimento

kez1234 wrote: »

my son wasn't doing anything?

No, of course he wasn't.