anyone heard of investment property group they say they have a buyer for my house

Running_Horse

inforeq wrote: »

Again at the risk of being slagged off by idiots/know it alls/ wannabee's -

I have just come back from the Solcitiors Office, they are currently now in correspondence with Mr Brown's Solicitors Office regarding the sale.

What solicitior was Mr Brown using?

The police may be interested in contacting them.

Running_Horse

inforeq wrote: »

My experience of IPG has been fine, slow, but fine, if all goes to plan I will be paying 1200 upon completion and will have managed to sell my property in a depressed market for a reasonable sum.

It sounds alot like sour grapes to me!

inforeq wrote: »

to be fair, I never defended them

Glad to put the record straight.

spirit

raybonda wrote: »

spirit, i am very sorry to have wronged you , i is my fault.
yes,,,,i paid them,
yes i complained about them.
yes i also complained that there were a lot of 'told you so' and'dont go near them' advice but it was (for me) after the fact,
'never pay up front' was obviously to late .
yes i am a fool, but have been made painfully aware of my off day, we all have them.
the question now is 'is there any point trying to get police involvement ?
as has been said what was the solicitor involved for IPG?
COULD THAT BE AN OPENING FOR THE POLICE?
the bank account?
it was a bit of a waste for the Met pc to tell me 'they are obviously well organised' i was already well aware of that.
the bee in my bonnet now is that the police have just rolled over to have their tummies tickled.......
surely even as a 'stupid' taxpayer, deserving all i get........i am still entitled to have this crime invetigated?
knowing that Mr Plod is staying warm in toytown will only encourage IPG to scam more and more.......i believe they will and it is their greed which will trip them up.
really i suppose i am asking for the police to at least try or look as though they are.
i will still keep trying to get some authority moving ........these guuys cant be so clever as to outwit the county's finest? unless the 'finest' dont care!

don't beat yourself up over it Ray, like the saying goes, hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Like I say, these poor sods on the Egypt property scam have lost thousands upon thousands to a known Uk scammer. The DTI and police are well aware of him yet seem to have shrugged their collective shoulders about it.

That's not to say that you shouldn't keep on at the police, fraud squad etc. Like I say, these scammers will likely go on to find other victims elsewhere.

I wish you luck and hope you get your money back.

nearlynew

Think of the 70 odd quid you've paid so far as the price of a lesson learned.

The people that run these types of companies are often lying thieves and are best avoided.

If your house is worth what you're asking for it then it will sell for that price on the open market.



(edit: Just realised this was an old, long thread and haven't read any of the replies. The above is to the OP)

fathippy

Dear contributors to this thread - thank you for filling the last ninety minutes of my life! I have trudged through 500+ mails, much like watching all series of LOST consecutively, and in both cases found no cunning twist at the end, nor agreement/conclusion.

The arguments seem to go round in circles, but I guess there is no way to force someone to answer a straightforward question.

As a complete outsider until a few hours ago, there was definitely a huge amount of denial from some "scammees" or potential scammees. What seemed like reasoned advice was being shunned both because it scotched the possibility of the promised monies at the end, and also because it may have involved admitting bad decisions already made.

Inforeq - you must see in hindsight how your posts may have come across to others - even if your intentions may have been fair. There is an argument to say that this may have tipped the balance in favour of the scammers for a handful of their later victims.

In short the advice in any scenario is as follows. Either a transaction involves the exchange of one consideration for another (ie cash for car, house for cash, donkey for bag of beans) or it involves taking (or giving) some form of credit. This credit is no different to a loan, or an overdraft, and you see the amount of paperwork that goes into that. This is why furniture stores or car companies never actually offer credit, they merely take some of the cost of the car and pay it to a finance company who deal with the customer over 3 years, 5 years etc.

What is strange is that so many people happily offer credit to other people or companies seemingly without any terms or any paperwork. Indeed in some cases they dont even know who they are dealing with. No bank would ever lend you even £20 without seeing a passport, proof of address, etc, yet people regularly pay tradesmen BEFORE a job is done, or pay advance fees. This is basically a three month loan or six month loan and all the information you have is a bank account number, or a ltd company name. THIS IS CRAZY.

So - in future, if ever a situation arises where you hand over one part of any deal, and dont immediately get the other side back, tell yourself that you are opening an X-month loan with the counterparty and endeavour to get them to provide you with exactly what you would expect to provide your bank for the same privelege.

nearlynew

fathippy wrote: »

Dear contributors to this thread - thank you for filling the last ninety minutes of my life! I have trudged through 500+ mails, much like watching all series of LOST consecutively, and in both cases found no cunning twist at the end, nor agreement/conclusion.

The arguments seem to go round in circles, but I guess there is no way to force someone to answer a straightforward question.

As a complete outsider until a few hours ago, there was definitely a huge amount of denial from some "scammees" or potential scammees. What seemed like reasoned advice was being shunned both because it scotched the possibility of the promised monies at the end, and also because it may have involved admitting bad decisions already made.

Inforeq - you must see in hindsight how your posts may have come across to others - even if your intentions may have been fair. There is an argument to say that this may have tipped the balance in favour of the scammers for a handful of their later victims.

In short the advice in any scenario is as follows. Either a transaction involves the exchange of one consideration for another (ie cash for car, house for cash, donkey for bag of beans) or it involves taking (or giving) some form of credit. This credit is no different to a loan, or an overdraft, and you see the amount of paperwork that goes into that. This is why furniture stores or car companies never actually offer credit, they merely take some of the cost of the car and pay it to a finance company who deal with the customer over 3 years, 5 years etc.

What is strange is that so many people happily offer credit to other people or companies seemingly without any terms or any paperwork. Indeed in some cases they dont even know who they are dealing with. No bank would ever lend you even £20 without seeing a passport, proof of address, etc, yet people regularly pay tradesmen BEFORE a job is done, or pay advance fees. This is basically a three month loan or six month loan and all the information you have is a bank account number, or a ltd company name. THIS IS CRAZY.

So - in future, if ever a situation arises where you hand over one part of any deal, and dont immediately get the other side back, tell yourself that you are opening an X-month loan with the counterparty and endeavour to get them to provide you with exactly what you would expect to provide your bank for the same privelege.

So it's a scam then?


jeez

GDB2222

nearlynew wrote: »

So it's a scam then?

jeez

There really ought to be a facility to give negative thanks to people. Perhaps just one neg a month. If I had one right now, I would use it on your post NearlyNew.

inforeq

GDB2222 wrote: »

Inforeq, what was the name of the solicitor that IPG used, and have you passed this info to the Police? The solicitor should have carried out money laundering checks before acting for them, so that's a tangible lead the Police certainly could follow up rather easily.

The only details I have on the Solcitior are they are based in Bristol - our documents went over to them and then my Solcitior was advised that they were not working for a "Mr Brown"

inforeq

Running_Horse wrote: »

Glad to put the record straight.

Glad your feeling much better lately.

inforeq

Running_Horse wrote: »

If it wasn't aimed at me then why name me?

The fraud happened exactly how many members of this forum predicted it would. You don't need to be a psychic to predict an advance-fee fraud. All that is left is for victims of these criminals to place their hope in the police.

This discussion is dead. You are only keeping it alive because you must have the last word, and perhaps guilt at your gullible involvement. If you can't accept you were wrong that is your problem. Google brought you this far, I suggest you search anger, guilt and denial.

You are only trying to get a rise out of me your miserable troll. You need to google phrases such as "nosey" and "pathetic", your name will then appear.

Well done you for being the oracle of all knowledge - you obviously have too much time on your hands to be able to sit in judgement of others and verbally abuse them - i refer to your "low-life" tirade at me.