Am I getting 600hz display on my tv

aliEnRIK

sickofusernames wrote: »

I suppose I can try mess with the settings, but as I said, I think i'm getting too old to be bothered to set things up as I expect things to work "out of the box" instead of programming parameters/settings for the best picture.

Technology seems to rip people off and the more people get wise to it the better IMO.

The only tv I know of that has the correct picture settings is the last Pioneer 50 and 60" models. but even THEY required you to switch to CINEMA settings and turn off all the extra processing cr*p

Im sorry but theres no such thing as a correctly calibrated tv out of the box. Most will look and perform 'ok', but NONE are at their best without calibration

Settings are there as the manufacturers know full well they need calibration dependant on equipment used etc. If not calibrated then your losing parts of the picture, or it will be too dull or too grey. Colours will be wrong etc etc

Just to add, most modern tvs are generally at their best initial settings (Without proper calibration) when using the 'cinema' settings

almillar

Back to the OP's question - the information that the TV is telling you when you press that button is the type of pictue COMING IN to the TV. That's all!
I think if you want to see the (supposed) 600hz technology turn on IFC (Intelligent Frame Creation). Since you've got a plasma screen you've got a screen that inherently handles motion better than LCD screens, so all these fast refresh rates are irrelevent.
As has been mentioned above - all the stuff you'll be viewing will be 50 or 60Hz, or else 24 frames per second. There's a certain amout of magic that can be done to help the picture, that's for sure, but just for reference, I've got IFC turned off...

vivajustice

Nothing that is out at the moment can take advantage of 600hz. When you buy a tv, you dont need to look at the 'hz'. Every tv can handle tv broadcasts, blu-ray, dvd, gaming. Its the box you connect to the tv what does the hard work, your tv just displays the picture.

You want to be looking at the contrast ratio and response time more than anything. And for todays tv's you should be looking for full 1080p.

The 'hz' help reduce picture flicker, but anything over 200hz the human eye will never be able to recognise.

Toxteth_OGrady

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/display_myths_shattered

aliEnRIK

Toxteth_OGrady wrote: »

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/display_myths_shattered

Very well wrote article that. Shame theres nothing on LAG

aliEnRIK

vivajustice wrote: »

Nothing that is out at the moment can take advantage of 600hz.

The display doesnt actually display at 600Hz anyways

vivajustice wrote: »

When you buy a tv, you dont need to look at the 'hz'. Every tv can handle tv broadcasts, blu-ray, dvd, gaming. Its the box you connect to the tv what does the hard work, your tv just displays the picture.

SD tvs wouldnt accept a HD signal though would they? Even some 720 tvs wont accept 1080i and lots wont accept 1080P

vivajustice wrote: »

You want to be looking at the contrast ratio and response time more than anything. And for todays tv's you should be looking for full 1080p.

Contrast ratios and response times dont mean anything

vivajustice wrote: »

The 'hz' help reduce picture flicker, but anything over 200hz the human eye will never be able to recognise.

Not actually true. In fact studies have shown that certain people may be able to detect differences into the thousands. Also, some 100Hz tvs look worse than the best 50Hz ones for flicker. Lots of 100Hz models have also reduced flicker but INTRODUCED 'smearing'

Hammyman

aliEnRIK wrote: »

Contrast ratios and response times dont mean anything

They mean everything. The contrast ratio determines the ability to display different gradients of colour. One with a contrast ratio of 1000:1 will look like the colours are washed out compared to one with a CR of 3000:1.

Response time is the time it takes for a pixel to change state. The slower it is, the more you'll notice motion blur.

In respect to the LCD or Plasma TV, the only thing that doesn't mean anything is "refresh rate". There is nothing to be refreshed.

vivajustice

aliEnRIK wrote: »

SD tvs wouldnt accept a HD signal though would they? Even some 720 tvs wont accept 1080i and lots wont accept 1080P

Actually 1080i is an upscaled 720p so 720p tvs will display 1080i. And i will re-word my statement to say 'tvs that are made today will accept everything'

aliEnRIK wrote: »

Contrast ratios and response times dont mean anything

As Hammyman stated, Contrast and response mean a lot toward the better picture. Plasmas will almost always have a superior picture due to there high contrast ratio, deep blacks and, todays plasmas, fast response time.

aliEnRIK

vivajustice wrote: »

Actually 1080i is an upscaled 720p so 720p tvs will display 1080i. And i will re-word my statement to say 'tvs that are made today will accept everything'

1080i is not upscaled 720 at all. I dont know where you got that one from but its completely wrong.

vivajustice wrote: »

As Hammyman stated, Contrast and response mean a lot toward the better picture. Plasmas will almost always have a superior picture due to there high contrast ratio, deep blacks and, todays plasmas, fast response time.

Contrast ratios dont have a set standard, so numbers mean nothing as theyre all made up figures.Id agree that if there was a set standard then they would make a difference (I measure mine using a calibrated sensor, so I certainly know what im talking about)

aliEnRIK

Hammyman wrote: »

They mean everything. The contrast ratio determines the ability to display different gradients of colour. One with a contrast ratio of 1000:1 will look like the colours are washed out compared to one with a CR of 3000:1.

Incorrect, proper contrast ratio is the range from black to white the display is capable of, but theyre all watched (As yet) in 8 bit so the actual NUMBER of colours stays the same. Also, theres no set standard for measuring contrast ratio so its all BS

Hammyman wrote: »

Response time is the time it takes for a pixel to change state. The slower it is, the more you'll notice motion blur.

In respect to the LCD or Plasma TV, the only thing that doesn't mean anything is "refresh rate". There is nothing to be refreshed.

Response time is the time taken for a pixel to change from black to white and back to black again. Again, most of the published figures are BS and have FAR higher figures (or possibly the figures are correct for a static pixel but changes around the pixel can affect it). Agreed that if its too slow then youll get 'smearing' going on. But most tvs have done away with this problem entirely. In fact most smearing is now caused by poor onboard processing.

Refresh rate ~ well as usual its an incorrect statement (Just like contrast is in fact used to set brightness). But it does tell us what refresh rate the screen runs at (Even if it has to interpolate screens inbetween true frames). That said, as this threads all about, there are BS figures like 600Hz which is conning the consumer