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Am I getting 600hz display on my tv

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  • aliEnRIK
    aliEnRIK Posts: 17,741 Forumite
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    KillerWatt wrote: »
    My point being is that TV manufacturers did not move away from the 24 fps "standard" you implied, because it was never a "standard" where television sets are concerned to start with.

    The human eye is quite a forgiving tool, so forgiving in fact that frame rates as low as 18 fps can give the appearance of fluid motion.

    My point was simple, there are no true multiples where tvs sets are concerned so if they do have multiples of the new standard, or indeed whatever they change to (IF and when it ever changes) then tvs need to change too (Else there will be conversions in progress). I never 'implied' anything
    :idea:
  • aliEnRIK
    aliEnRIK Posts: 17,741 Forumite
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    edited 23 May 2010 at 7:04AM
    I used to be able to understand all this techno jargon but slowly getting bored of all the bullpooh of it all. My partner bought a 42" LG, a 200hz LCD one last August and although the picture quality in-store 'seemed' better than a lot of the others, we can't stand watching it in 200hz mode as Bluray movies especially seem to stutter in fast action parts. I reverted it back to the 50hz mode and it's just 'okay'.

    Is it because i'm getting old? - I'm 38... :D

    Lesson learned, NEVER judge a tv in a store

    That said, blurays are supposed to be watched in (if it has it) a 24Hz mode

    other settings may well upset it too (Mine has a FILM MODE for example, anything other than 1 for blurays isnt correct, whilst anything other then 2 for everything else isnt correct either! ~ this most definitely ISNT explained in the manual)
    :idea:
  • aliEnRIK
    aliEnRIK Posts: 17,741 Forumite
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    KillerWatt wrote: »
    I haven't seen one manufacturer make that claim, and they never will because it simply doesn't happen.

    The problem is that some people automatically assume that is the case, and then don't bother to question it further.

    Its a con. If a car manufacturer advertised their car goes from 0-60 in 3 seconds when in fact it takes 10 seconds then its a con. Pure and simple

    They know full well that everyone will initially think a tv advertised at 600Hz will screen refresh at that rate.

    To me thats false advertising. The ASA have removed many other items for a LOT less so im confused as to how Panasonic etc get away with it.
    :idea:
  • KillerWatt
    KillerWatt Posts: 1,655 Forumite
    aliEnRIK wrote: »
    They know full well that everyone will initially think a tv advertised at 600Hz will screen refresh at that rate.
    It took years for people to learn to accept that their broadband was "up to" X Mbps, it's obviously going to be the same with the sub frame timing speeds (which are completely seperate from frame timing).
    Remember kids, it's the volts that jolt and the mills that kill.
  • aliEnRIK
    aliEnRIK Posts: 17,741 Forumite
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    KillerWatt wrote: »
    It took years for people to learn to accept that their broadband was "up to" X Mbps, it's obviously going to be the same with the sub frame timing speeds (which are completely seperate from frame timing).


    As I understand it, there are still court cases on the horizon to do with 'up to' X Mbps
    :idea:
  • KillerWatt
    KillerWatt Posts: 1,655 Forumite
    aliEnRIK wrote: »
    As I understand it, there are still court cases on the horizon to do with 'up to' X Mbps
    Not heard that myself, but can't see them getting anywhere as the phrase "up to" is in no way misleading whatsoever.

    Same applies to the phrase "600 Hz technology", it does not imply in the slightest that the end image will be refreshed 600 times per second - that is just an assumption on the end users part.
    Remember kids, it's the volts that jolt and the mills that kill.
  • aliEnRIK
    aliEnRIK Posts: 17,741 Forumite
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    KillerWatt wrote: »
    Not heard that myself, but can't see them getting anywhere as the phrase "up to" is in no way misleading whatsoever.

    Sorry, a bit missleading

    I meant people are trying to take ISPs to court that advertise 8Mb (or whatever), when in fact its 'up to' (perhaps they all say that now, but they didnt used to)
    :idea:
  • KillerWatt
    KillerWatt Posts: 1,655 Forumite
    aliEnRIK wrote: »
    Sorry, a bit missleading

    I meant people are trying to take ISPs to court that advertise 8Mb (or whatever), when in fact its 'up to' (perhaps they all say that now, but they didnt used to)
    When ADSL first becamse available, the only speeds offered (depending on distance from exchange) were 512k, 1Mbit, and 2Mbit.
    If you fell short of the maximum distance for 2Mbit, then you were only offered a choice of 512k or 1Mbit (you simply could not get it installed if you did not meet the criteria). You always got connected at the speed you paid for, and that was pretty much it.

    Then the techies realised they could up the speeds by making a few changes, and that's how the "up to" 8Mbit service came about.
    However if memory serves me correctly, it was always made clear from day one that you were being offered "up to" simply because the quality of the line could not be guaranteed.
    Remember kids, it's the volts that jolt and the mills that kill.
  • aliEnRIK wrote: »
    Lesson learned, NEVER judge a tv in a store

    That said, blurays are supposed to be watched in (if it has it) a 24Hz mode

    other settings may well upset it too (Mine has a FILM MODE for example, anything other than 1 for blurays isnt correct, whilst anything other then 2 for everything else isnt correct either! ~ this most definitely ISNT explained in the manual)

    I suppose I can try mess with the settings, but as I said, I think i'm getting too old to be bothered to set things up as I expect things to work "out of the box" instead of programming parameters/settings for the best picture.

    Technology seems to rip people off and the more people get wise to it the better IMO.
  • KillerWatt
    KillerWatt Posts: 1,655 Forumite
    I suppose I can try mess with the settings, but as I said, I think i'm getting too old to be bothered to set things up as I expect things to work "out of the box" instead of programming parameters/settings for the best picture.
    Television sets have always had adjustable parameters that the end user can set (even if it did just used to be colour, brightness, & contrast).
    The reason for that is because everybodies eyes & ears are different, and what looks & sounds good to one may very well look & sound like crap to someone else.
    Remember kids, it's the volts that jolt and the mills that kill.
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