**** I'm pregnant

jackieglasgow

newcook wrote: »

while I agree with a lot of what you have said, not all contraception is 100% (apart from celibacy as you have pointed out)
I think condoms are 97% and the pill is 99% (if taken around the same time every day).

completely agree that its the womans decision as it is her body!

I Know the clinical results are 97% I was just saying, in my experience, it's been 100% - it's the only contraception I've ever used, and the only pregnancies I've had, have been planned.

ceridwen

tru wrote: »

Don't assume the debts are eating all wannaberich1's money - we have debts that could have been paid off years ago but we're still plodding along with them. We had the nasty letters and phone calls for about 2 years - the interest was frozen ages ago so I decided as they'd given us so much stress, they can wait and we'll pay off a tiny amount per month

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Well - some people may struggle with their conscience if they aborted/had adopted a baby. Others of us would struggle with our conscience about the thought of taking actions that would mean that we owed "innocent" people money because of choices that WE had made.

Personally - I would feel very guilty at owing people money that I had agreed to pay them back before now...as why should other people suffer because of MY circumstances/wishes?

personally - I like to rest easy in my bed knowing that I have never ever made anyone wait for any money that was due from me. Any debt I've ever had has been paid back right on time - if not sooner. It's always wise to remember that we all have responsibilities - as well as wishes/rights.....

rach

To try and get back to the point....

OP I feel for you. I've not been in the same situation, but my dh did have moments when he massively panicked about the baby and how it would affect things, and sometimes said things he now regrets.

Like others have said why don't you take a few deep breaths and a bit of time to think about it all. Your emotions will be all over the place I am sure. Whichever course you take there will be big ups and downs ahead.

newcook

jackieglasgow wrote: »

I Know the clinical results are 97% I was just saying, in my experience, it's been 100% - it's the only contraception I've ever used, and the only pregnancies I've had, have been planned.

sorry - just re-read and saw you did say in your experience!! I have always been a fan of the pill and, touch wood, have never had any 'accidents'.

tru

wannaberich1, have you been to see your GP? Once you find out how far along you are, you can relax a bit. I'm not sure of the time limits for abortion, but if you decide to have one then you'll know you've given yourself a bit of time to consider it all. If it were me, I wouldn't be able to think straight until I knew what was happening (with pregnancy, I mean) and when.

Plans_all_plans

ceridwen wrote: »

personally - I like to rest easy in my bed knowing that I have never ever made anyone wait for any money that was due from me. Any debt I've ever had has been paid back right on time - if not sooner.

Your input is not helpful ceridwen.

OP if I had to choose between abortion and making a company wait for their money: they'd be waiting. I get the feeling you want to keep the child, so dont be panicked into abortion. You will cope if you have to and there are many organisations who could help you (LIFE being one I've mentioned before)

tru

ceridwen wrote: »

Well - some people may struggle with their conscience if they aborted/had adopted a baby. Others of us would struggle with our conscience about the thought of taking actions that would mean that we owed "innocent" people money because of choices that WE had made.

Personally - I would feel very guilty at owing people money that I had agreed to pay them back before now...as why should other people suffer because of MY circumstances/wishes?

personally - I like to rest easy in my bed knowing that I have never ever made anyone wait for any money that was due from me. Any debt I've ever had has been paid back right on time - if not sooner. It's always wise to remember that we all have responsibilities - as well as wishes/rights.....

Lloyd's Bank. Nightmare. Bad financial [STRIKE]advice[/STRIKE] demands which I'm not going into here, but they'd be in a hell of a lot of trouble with the FSA if they tried it now. We've paid what we owe twice over (interest and charges which wouldn't be applied if it happened now) so they most certainly haven't lost out.

tiamai_d

I found myself pregnant in January last year. DH's reaction was get rid of it. Slightly different circumstances though, we had two boys already and due to the circumstances of DS2's birth another pregnancy was a huge risk. We were urged to terminate by my consultant, but it didn't feel right to me.

The appointment was made and I went to it and broke down in tears. What shocked me was that at no point was I asked on my own, if I was sure this was what I wanted. DH was in the room with me the whole time, I was visibly upset over it. But I wasn't asked if I was sure I was doing the right thing. The nurse said we could do it today (the first tablets that start the termination) which shocked me, the letter said you go back the next day, so I assumed the first appointment was for counselling of some sort, how wrong was I?

What I'm getting at is that you have to decide and be sure of your decision before taking any action. It's so easy for people to sit back and say what you should do, but they are not the ones who has to live with it, termination or baby for the rest of their lives. Nor are they the ones with an onslaught of hormones that not only make you want to protect that little bundle of cells, be scared as !!!! but also mean you can't think straight without breaking down in a heap crying your heart out.

Zazen999

Plans_all_plans wrote: »

Your input is not helpful ceridwen.

OP if I had to choose between abortion and making a company wait for their money: they'd be waiting. I get the feeling you want to keep the child, so dont be panicked into abortion. You will cope if you have to and there are many organisations who could help you (LIFE being one I've mentioned before)

But doesn't the money that someone pays in debt then go to pay their staff who then presumably keep a roof over the head of THEIR child; so either way a child could suffer.

Plans_all_plans

Well I'm afraid as a mother my concern is my own child, not anyone elses. I urge the OP to look after her own interests and those of her unborn child. I will not post on this thread again as I feel it is unhelpful to the OP to have all these arguments going on. Again, I would urge you to talk to LIFE about your predicament.

Best wishes OP.