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Utility Warehouse (Telecom Plus) Discussion
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I'm more than happy to allow major UK retailers to fund my incredibly low cost UW services. This is after all a MONEY SAVING site. Perhaps Cardew would care to share with the group what cash back card he uses to maximise the savings on his retail spend (in Waitrose??)? No, thought not. He's a 'do as I say, not do as I do' kinda random internet character, I guess. The internet is littered with them.
Unless you DO use a cash back card, 'Cards'? Full details please (and expect supplementary questions on its use). I'm expecting this to be an exercise similar to getting you to discuss the UW SIM only mobile deals. 6 months minimum before any sort of response?
PS Cardew, still smarting over post 2408? You deserve to be.0 -
Well well well..what I and others have always suspected is now well and truly out in the open. Maybe we are going to get a more level playing field now?Managing director Phil Bentley admitted that British Gas "had not made it easy for customers" in the past and a letter would be sent out to all customers explaining the new policy.
He told the BBC: "It's clear that we need to make things better for our customers. To make sure we do that, I'm committed to having an honest conversation with (them). We are very conscious of our social responsibility."
He added that British Gas had offered cheap deals as loss leaders in order to attract customers but the company would no longer be doing this.
"It's not right if we are charging honest customers more (to fund these deals)," he said.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5gat1_NGOiVSbL_0W3zR71vIpLrfw?docId=N0048481322116763370A0 -
MillicentBystander wrote: »Well well well..what I and others have always suspected is now well and truly out in the open. Maybe we are going to get a more level playing field now?
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5gat1_NGOiVSbL_0W3zR71vIpLrfw?docId=N0048481322116763370A
That is already well known. Npower's loss leader is the Sign on line tariffs. The tariff is very cheap....but.... at the end of the tariff the customer is switched onto the go fix tariff an expensive profitable tariff £150 a year more expensive that the SOL tariff. If the customer is savvy they will switch and profit from it and Npower loses money otherwise but as most people do they think it was a good deal 18 months ago so it must always be a good deal and don't even bother looking and Npower start to make a profit on that customer.
I'd say most of the big suppliers have complex tariffs like that to attract them on cheap rates then whack them up later. I always reccommend to people "know the end date of the deal" and compare and switch regularly.:footie:Regular savers earn 6% interest (HSBC, First Direct, M&S)
Loans cost 2.9% per year (Nationwide) = FREE money.
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That is already well known. Npower's loss leader is the Sign on line tariffs. The tariff is very cheap....but.... at the end of the tariff the customer is switched onto the go fix tariff an expensive profitable tariff £150 a year more expensive that the SOL tariff. If the customer is savvy they will switch and profit from it and Npower loses money otherwise but as most people do they think it was a good deal 18 months ago so it must always be a good deal and don't even bother looking and Npower start to make a profit on that customer.
I'd say most of the big suppliers have complex tariffs like that to attract them on cheap rates then whack them up later. I always reccommend to people "know the end date of the deal" and compare and switch regularly.
I know we all know it, but AFAIA this is the first time an energy company MD has actually admitted the practice in print. Just doing some figures in the Midlands area at average consumption and BGs cheapest tariff (online energy) is now 3% cheaper than UW (UWs price obviously includes the £18/yr club fee but again obviously not the potential 10% refund after 12 months). BG's standard tariff is 2% more expensive (this includes the dual fuel discount, btw).
Question is, will the rest of the Big 6 cave in as well, now the 'secret' is in the public domain?
Ps It's interesting that BG are now coming round to UWs POV in this regard.0 -
If someone currently has a broadband/landline/tv/ bundle with sky and they are at the end of the contract period, can UW take over the landline element only for £10.75? How would this effect the bundle price with sky as such?thankswhen the tide goes out we shall see who has been swimming naked0
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smugbear2007 wrote: »If someone currently has a broadband/landline/tv/ bundle with sky and they are at the end of the contract period, can UW take over the landline element only for £10.75? How would this effect the bundle price with sky as such?thanks
If your on the Sky Voice and Broadband Network and your number originated from BT,this normally applies.
"If you decide to cancel or switch your Sky Talk services to another provider, your Sky Broadband service will automatically be cancelled at the same time. If you want to reorder your Sky Broadband service, you will need to move back to BT’s network and wait for your new line to be activated (which will incur a charge). Once your new line is activated, you can contact Sky to re-order your Sky Broadband service. You may need to pay us the current applicable set-up charges. It usually takes about three weeks to activate a new line on BT’s network and another two weeks before your Sky Broadband service is activated. You will not receive a broadband service during that period."
http://www.sky.com/shop/terms-conditions/broadband/0 -
Or you could take the phone and broadband bundled package (if applicable to your area) with UW, which is competitively priced.
In other news:
http://www.fool.co.uk/news/investing/2011/11/24/3-shares-to-beat-bt.aspxI am an Independent Financial AdviserYou should note that this site doesn't check my status as an Independent Financial Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.0 -
smugbear2007 wrote: »If someone currently has a broadband/landline/tv/ bundle with sky and they are at the end of the contract period, can UW take over the landline element only for £10.75? How would this effect the bundle price with sky as such?thanks
The UW is (again) misleading by claiming they provide line rental for "just £10.75".
They don't. But no surprise their rep doesn't point this out!
You have to also join their club (minimum charge £1.50 or £2.50 if you want a paper bill) AND theor is a minimum charge of £1 a month!
So £10.75 is really at least £13.25/month!0 -
The UW is (again) misleading by claiming they provide line rental for "just £10.75".
They don't. But no surprise their rep doesn't point this out!
You have to also join their club (minimum charge £1.50 or £2.50 if you want a paper bill) AND theor is a minimum charge of £1 a month!
So £10.75 is really at least £13.25/month!
Which is STILL cheaper than the comparable BT price of £14.60 wef 3/12/11 (and that is subject to a min 12 months contract term). Of course, once you have paid the club fee on one product, it doesn't apply to any other UW product you buy - the club fee remains the same no matter how many UW services you take. So, for instance, should a customer then decide to buy the £10/mth SIM (unbeatable in the marketplace; I think you and Cardew's embarrassing silence on this proves) then that is actually £10/mth. Or, you could say that the phone line rental costs £12.50/mth (which includes £1/mth of inclusive calls) and the SIM only deal £10.75/mth. And neither of these services has a long min contract term - nothing on the phone line (subject to a £10 admin fee if you leave?) and 31 days on the SIM. You pays yer money and yer takes yer choice.0 -
I thought the latest comparison was with the Sky offer of £12.25 per month with free caller number display.:footie:
Regular savers earn 6% interest (HSBC, First Direct, M&S)
Loans cost 2.9% per year (Nationwide) = FREE money.
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