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Utility Warehouse (Telecom Plus) Discussion

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  • HappyMJ
    HappyMJ Posts: 21,115 Forumite
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    edited 16 November 2011 at 11:45PM
    Cardew wrote: »
    For BT a new customer will pay £36.50 a month – an old customer can obtain the same package via retentions for £32.20.

    For UW - assuming LLU - the cost would be £25 + £7.75 phone calls + £1.50 membership + *£2 caller number display + *£2 wireless router =
    £38.25

    *
    Not certain of the £2 as difficult to find on the website.

    Also although BT is cheaper than UW(and has loads of frills that many find essential) I am told there are cheaper packages than BT.
    Well so far I've got....

    Scrap that see below
    :footie:
    :p Regular savers earn 6% interest (HSBC, First Direct, M&S) :p Loans cost 2.9% per year (Nationwide) = FREE money. :p
  • HappyMJ wrote: »
    Well so far I've got....

    £1.50 online membership
    SIM only £15 for 800 minutes on the mobile unlimited texts and £5 for the data pack
    Broadband @ £24.99+£1.50 CND+£1 Wireless router (£1.01 less than the Sky package per month that was posted earlier but Sky's cashback offer does make it the winner so far)
    £23.02 for electricity and £14.57 for gas including the 10% off for taking 4 services.
    The £50 a week spend should generate £6.50 a month cash back but cost £1 per month after 6 months.

    Total £81.08 per month compared to £91.00 with EDF and Virgin.


    Get him to buy a kitchen on his UW card from B&Q or Homebase and he could get 3 months of his utilities for free. Yes, I'm joking.

    Seriously, get him to check the usage on his mobile and see if he really needs 800 mins/mth (very few people seem to get anywhere near the paid for maximum). Maybe he could go for the £10/mth plus £5 data pack instead? Just a thought. The UW sim will work with his existing mobile as Virgin also piggy back into T Mobile.
  • HappyMJ
    HappyMJ Posts: 21,115 Forumite
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    Get him to buy a kitchen on his UW card from B&Q or Homebase and he could get 3 months of his utilities for free. Yes, I'm joking.

    Seriously, get him to check the usage on his mobile and see if he really needs 800 mins/mth (very few people seem to get anywhere near the paid for maximum). Maybe he could go for the £10/mth plus £5 data pack instead? Just a thought. The UW sim will work with his existing mobile as Virgin also piggy back into T Mobile.
    Always more than 600 minutes per month apparently averaging at 700 minutes so not worth the £5 discount risk. The 800 minute plan is good anyway. I know it's only £1 less than currently but it qualifies the 10% discount on the gas and electric and I just don't think that it can be beaten.

    There are some customers that can save and I'm just wondering if this is one of them unlike the one that we've been debating this afternoon.
    :footie:
    :p Regular savers earn 6% interest (HSBC, First Direct, M&S) :p Loans cost 2.9% per year (Nationwide) = FREE money. :p
  • HappyMJ wrote: »
    Always more than 600 minutes per month apparently averaging at 700 minutes so not worth the £5 discount risk. The 800 minute plan is good anyway. I know it's only £1 less than currently but it qualifies the 10% discount on the gas and electric and I just don't think that it can be beaten.

    There are some customers that can save and I'm just wondering if this is one of them unlike the one that we've been debating this afternoon.


    How have you got the gas and electric figures, by your own calculations or via a comparison site?
  • HappyMJ
    HappyMJ Posts: 21,115 Forumite
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    How have you got the gas and electric figures, by your own calculations or via a comparison site?
    Directly from the UW site and confirming on the UKPower website. They match. Well the UKPower is 10% higher but using the tariff table and deducting the £18 they add and then deducting the 10% it's the same.
    :footie:
    :p Regular savers earn 6% interest (HSBC, First Direct, M&S) :p Loans cost 2.9% per year (Nationwide) = FREE money. :p
  • MillicentBystander
    MillicentBystander Posts: 3,518 Forumite
    edited 16 November 2011 at 11:25PM
    HappyMJ wrote: »
    Directly from the UW site and confirming on the UKPower website. They match. Well the UKPower is 10% higher but using the tariff table and deducting the £18 they add and then deducting the 10% it's the same.


    Nice one. :) I must be doing summat wrong with the electric calculation because i get it to just a smidgeon over £20/mth? Any ideas? 1825 x .15136 = 276 - 27 = 249 divide by 12 = £20.76?
  • HappyMJ
    HappyMJ Posts: 21,115 Forumite
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    edited 17 November 2011 at 12:01AM
    Nice one. :) I must be doing summat wrong with the electric calculation because i get it to just a smidgeon over £20/mth? Any ideas? 1825 x .15136 = 276 - 27 = 249 divide by 12 = £20.76?
    oopps yes I forgot to deduct the 10%..hehe...I'll fix that. At least someone is checking the figures.

    I'll start again

    Well so far I've got....

    £1.50 online membership...
    SIM only £15 for 800 minutes on the mobile unlimited texts and £5 for the data pack...
    Broadband @ £24.99+£1.50 CND+£1 Wireless router
    £20.72 for electricity and £13.12 for gas including the 10% off for taking 4 services. Both on the low user tariff.
    The £50 a week spend should generate £6.50 a month cash back but cost £1 per month after 6 months.

    Total £77.33 per month for 12 months then £81.08 afterwards compared to £91.00 with EDF and Virgin.

    I normally recommend Tesco Broadband at £19.75 for 12 months then £23.75. Unlimited calls and download allowance. Free caller number display and free wireless router.

    I was thinking he could go with Npower for the electric for £20.60 a month and go with Ebico for the gas at £14.60 per month and stay with Virgin for the mobile phone at £21 per month.

    But that just turns 2 bills into 4 bills and 4 direct debits to manage @ £75.95 per month for 12 months then £79.95 afterwards.

    So it would cost only £1.38 more per month with UW and £1.13 more per month after the 12 months going forward. With the cash back card he only would need to move £10 per week more spending onto the required stores to save.
    :footie:
    :p Regular savers earn 6% interest (HSBC, First Direct, M&S) :p Loans cost 2.9% per year (Nationwide) = FREE money. :p
  • MillicentBystander
    MillicentBystander Posts: 3,518 Forumite
    edited 16 November 2011 at 11:59PM
    HappyMJ wrote: »
    oopps yes I forgot to deduct the 10%..hehe...I'll fix that. At least someone is checking the figures.

    I'll start again

    Well so far I've got....

    £1.50 online membership...
    SIM only £15 for 800 minutes on the mobile unlimited texts and £5 for the data pack...
    Broadband @ £24.99+£1.50 CND+£1 Wireless router
    £20.72 for electricity and £13.12 for gas including the 10% off for taking 4 services. Both on the low user tariff.
    The £50 a week spend should generate £6.50 a month cash back but cost £1 per month after 6 months.

    Total £77.33 per month compared to £91.00 with EDF and Virgin.

    I normally recommend Tesco Broadband at £19.75 for 12 months then £23.75. Unlimited calls and download allowance. Free caller number display and free wireless router.


    And wouldn't that be approx £72/mth with the (net of costs) cash back? IME the lower the consumption the better the deal with UW, probably because no matter how low your energy consumption is you still get the free calls. Plus, if your mate wanted completely accurate monthly billing that is also included in that price. NO other supplier at these consumption levels would be able to compete, price wise, with UW on accurate monthly billing. And all on one bill with one monthly direct debit. Not massively important now but wait until the banks start charging us for our banking!
  • NigeWick
    NigeWick Posts: 2,726 Forumite
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    penrhyn wrote: »
    Sky Broadband Unlimited
    I Sky got a deal through Quidco a couple of months back. It doesn't save me money but I do get good value as I didn't get some of the channels I wanted with just Freeview. And, I get faster download speed than I did with UW. It's called choice and that is something C&Q seem to want to deny others where Utility Warehouse is concerned.

    BTW, has Quentin provided any evidence that the UW pre payment card that (s)he calls "risky" has failed anybody, anybody at all, ever?
    The mind of the bigot is like the pupil of the eye; the more light you pour upon it, the more it will contract.
    Oliver Wendell Holmes
  • Quentin
    Quentin Posts: 40,405 Forumite
    NigeWick wrote: »
    BTW, has Quentin provided any evidence that the UW pre payment card that (s)he calls "risky" has failed anybody, anybody at all, ever?

    You keep repeating this mantra of yours. How childish to boast that you have me on "ignore" then post asking what I have posted!

    I have posted this in answer to you:

    I have never made any suggestion that the risky card "has failed anybody". (Whatever that means)


    And as I have posted previously, it is not me but the UW itself (though not its reps!), that stresses the risks that are associated with their card by asking anyone buying the card to accept the risks in the Ts + Cs:
    By activating your Card you accept these Terms and Conditions and confirm you understand and accept the risks highlighted in clauses 2(b) and 18(d) of this Agreement.
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