Utility Warehouse (Telecom Plus) Discussion

MillicentBystander

For the low user with no 'net access, UW are just about the least expensive gas and elctricity company in the UK.

They also offer the UKs cheapest mobile tariffs - GUARANTEED

They also offer a cash back card open to everyone which offers the chance for customers to reduce their monthly bill considerably, in some cases to nil.

This company aren't for everybody but can be the best option for potentially millions..

Quentin

Meeper wrote: »

Network Marketing is a recognised method of distribution. Using letters and leaflet drops is a legitimate way of marketing a business.

The way UW operates its network marketing is far from being "recognised" as a way of "distribution".

Nowhere else do we see a company employ and train 30000 distributors to cynically take advantage of their friends and family like this. (Nevertheless each of them manage on average 9 customers presumably from their group of friends who would never expect to be mislead like this)

If you invite your friend round who wants help over a problem at work, you don't expect he has another agenda, yet we see in the training methods (which you seem unhappy are on the net for all to see/hear) that they are trained to let their friends imagine they are being let into a world where they can not only get their utilities at wholesale prices, but very easily get another 40% off that!

In fact we know the uw is reselling npower energy at far more expensive prices than they sell it themselves, and the extra 40% off is actually only discount earned from spending thousands of pounds at uw partner retailers.

Instead, their friends could all be getting far more discount for themselves without having to become a member of uw, and buying their expensive products to "qualify" for the risky card.

And most folk would be annoyed to suddenly find their neighbours wanting to know why they were getting junk mail through the door urging them to speak to them about this so called "club", when they thought that all they were doing was helping out their friend with a problem at work!

See how the scales have fallen for this uw rep about uw methods who realised his friends were crossing the road to avoid him when they saw him coming:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBCRZ0eZ-D4

Cardew

uptomyeyeballs wrote: »

Just stick the really unhelpful, annoying posters here on Ignore. It makes the thread so much more civilised and allows us to hold a decent conversation without being interrupted by their spammy repetitive rubbish.

Surely you couldn't possibly think we post here for the benefit of the UW salesmen?

They already know that UW have just about the highest gas and electricity prices in UK.

We want to make potential new UW customers, as well as unsuspecting current UW customers, aware of the very high prices UW charge and the tactics used to divert attention away from those facts.

So personally I would be delighted if you ignored my posts and then you might not feel you have to contribute your usual posts; which add nothing to the discussion.

If only one or two people heed the warnings about UW's high prices and sales tactics, it will have achieved the aim of a Money Saving Website.

MillicentBystander

I'm sure I read somewhere that you can now go direct from TalkTalk to UW (and, I'm assuming, vice versa)?

cgk1

MillicentBystander wrote: »

For the low user with no 'net access, UW are just about the least expensive gas and elctricity company in the UK.

They also offer the UKs cheapest mobile tariffs - GUARANTEED

They also offer a cash back card open to everyone which offers the chance for customers to reduce their monthly bill considerably, in some cases to nil.

This company aren't for everybody but can be the best option for potentially millions..

Hum... Their blackberry bolt-on is double the price of any other network, their internet bolt-on is the same price as the other networks but for about half the amount of data. Once you get into many real world usage scenarios, doesn't look particular cheap to me.


And you should really make it clear that you are a rep (if you *ain't* a rep, then your behaviour is very strange).

penrhyn

MillicentBystander wrote: »

I'm sure I read somewhere that you can now go direct from TalkTalk to UW (and, I'm assuming, vice versa)?

Considering they are both CPW products, there shouldn't be any technical difficulties.

Regarding speeds on Sky, any ADSL service will be limited by the state of the line from the exchange, attenuation, noise, internal wiring.
The free Sky broadband offer is a bit of a bait and switch, as its 2Gb cap is fairly useless, speedwise its the same offer as unlimited.
If offered Sky Connect (non LLU) run.

Cardew

And you should really make it clear that you are a rep (if you *ain't* a rep, then your behaviour is very strange)

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Even though he posts using multiple identities*, all being enthusiastically in support of UW, he never admits to his involvement selling for the company.

* 1carminestocky, operastar, MilicentBystander, carespress plus no doubt identities.

janninew

cgk1 wrote: »

Hum... Their blackberry bolt-on is double the price of any other network, their internet bolt-on is the same price as the other networks but for about half the amount of data. Once you get into many real world usage scenarios, doesn't look particular cheap to me.


And you should really make it clear that you are a rep (if you *ain't* a rep, then your behaviour is very strange).

I agree that if you are a UW rep it should be declared. What I do find very "strange" behaviour that a poster on here can basically "steal" information from another site, which is clearly not allowed, yet nobody says anything?! Yet a poster (Mepper) might not declare in every post that they are a rep and they are jumped on for not following the rules!

MillicentBystander

cgk1 wrote: »

Hum... Their blackberry bolt-on is double the price of any other network, their internet bolt-on is the same price as the other networks but for about half the amount of data. Once you get into many real world usage scenarios, doesn't look particular cheap to me.


And you should really make it clear that you are a rep (if you *ain't* a rep, then your behaviour is very strange).

I was referring to their Sim Only deals, which have a cheapest or double the difference guarantee. Of course there are T&Cs which i obviously can't link to! I didn't go into the minutiae on account of Cardew also not going into the minutiae with his 'UW is expensive' claim.

PS The Sim Only deals are specifically aimed at people who don't require data, which I would imagine is still the vast majority of the mobile buying public. You remind me of Cardew, assume everything you do is reflective of the general public. It isn't.

I would be very interested if you could get a better sim only deal for a non-data user than UWs and post it here?

PPS I am not a distributor, never have been and never will. Being as you've cast aspersions about me, what's your reason for being here?

PPPS I've never claimed I wasn't 'strange'. But having witnessed some of the characters on here i'm coming to the conclusion that I'm nowhere near as strange as I at first thought.

cgk1

I was referring to their Sim Only deals

So was I.

PS The Sim Only deals are specifically aimed at people who don't require data, which I would imagine is still the vast majority of the mobile buying public. You remind me of Cardew, assume everything you do is reflective of the general public. It isn't.

I'm not which is why I said real world usage scenarios, rather than my usage, however since my PhD is in mobility and I am a researcher and expert into mobile technologies, I have a fairly good idea of what people are doing in the mobile space. Are you saying that the use of data is an uncommon usage scenario in 2011 and that demand for mobile services is not growing?

you say the Sim-only tarrifs are specifically for people who are not using data, can you point to where it says this?

PPS I am not a distributor, never have been and never will. Being as you've cast aspersions about me, what's your reason for being here?

I'm interested in saving money and post in various of the sub-forums on that topic and others, does that answer your question?