Kleeneeze or Betterware?

OldGreyFox

Jeanetteathome wrote: »

Big debate about this over on the squidoo site - eventually pro kleeneze people had to come along and slag everyone off and generally ,make a nuisance of themselves but some very good points were raised about this. The fact distributors can choose their areas upto 20 miles radius - here is a sure fire way of kleeneze finding out where everyone works ready to take this to a zoned operation.

It costs a lot too - what with the eze reach line , the Mykleenezespace website too - all this along with the regular fees means they are trawling in upto £25 a month from every distributor.

So they could be paying up to £300 a year to put thereselves out of business then.

OldGreyFox

Jeanetteathome wrote: »

With 5 books in the free to join offer it's utterly pointless - they'll need to make £125 with those to then qualify for an upgrade to a full account. Either way they'll end up buying 200 books.

It reeks to high heaven !

What do those 200 books cost Jean ?

lincroft1710

avg86 posted this on the Avon thread :

"I joined Betterware at the same time and lets just say, i will be ginving the orders out that i got last week and giving all my books and things back to my sales leader!! Waste of time!!"

Jeanetteathome

OldGreyFox wrote: »

What do those 200 books cost Jean ?

I'm not 100% sure how this works - I was re contacted by my upline, that in itself take some cheek. I runs along the lines of you get 5 books to show to friends and family and a first account credit of £125, after that first £125 order you can upgrade to a full account and buy more books - so I suppose it's the cost of the books and a reduced joining fee.

Either way it's a pretty poor show. Now they have the e website thing , the eze reach and now the online shopping thing to buy along with the monthly cost of ordering online.

givusajob

I wonder if anybody knows of any business that is either a self employed person or a fully fledged going concern that can run without any expenses what so ever? I mean even going to work costs me money! and it's not tax deductable either, so what with the beef about having to buy a few brohures?

So let me get this right, one spends £ 25 per month on various services provided by the company, and then one pays for the brochures which unlike baetterware whose catalogues are free, so, Jeanetteathome, what's the deal? you seem to know a lot about the business, are you actually in fact a kleeneze agent? and what do you do for a main job? if you don't mind me asking.

Jeanetteathome

givusajob wrote: »

I wonder if anybody knows of any business that is either a self employed person or a fully fledged going concern that can run without any expenses what so ever? I mean even going to work costs me money! and it's not tax deductable either, so what with the beef about having to buy a few brohures?

So let me get this right, one spends £ 25 per month on various services provided by the company, and then one pays for the brochures which unlike baetterware whose catalogues are free, so, Jeanetteathome, what's the deal? you seem to know a lot about the business, are you actually in fact a kleeneze agent? and what do you do for a main job? if you don't mind me asking.

It's not like that at all - the £25 would be the base minimum, the catalogues are £33 for 50 and you need 200 a week minimum to make any orders , then getting 21% of any orders. Sound easy but it isn't one all the other sundries costs like fuel come off.

I was left out of pocket - see my full story on post #381 about page 20.

Look at the other stories too - the usual cost of joining can be £200, I reckon it still is - the 5 books are to reel folk in.

If you are looking for work pleases don't do this you'll be out of pocket and working all hours for nothing.

billsavings

givusajob are you a kleeneze agent already by any chance ?

givusajob

billsavings wrote: »

givusajob are you a kleeneze agent already by any chance ?

no, but I don't know if I should become one after reading all this..

I heard nothing but good things so far but coming here has opened my eyes a bit..

I'm in two minds now..

do you have a ny advice?

billsavings

givusajob wrote: »

no, but I don't know if I should become one after reading all this..

I heard nothing but good things so far but coming here has opened my eyes a bit..

I'm in two minds now..

do you have a ny advice?

Who have you heard good things from ?

The best advice imho i have seen given to you is that in recent post 436 by Lincroft.

After all if it is that good you dont wanna be missing out do you, if you want to up your income.;)

givusajob

lincroft1710 wrote: »

Well unless you actually do the job, you won't find out! Whether you are successful or not will depend on 5 things, luck, hard work, price of product(s), quality of product(s) and desirability of product(s). And only one of those will you have any input into.

good thanks! the only way to find out for sure is to bite the bullet .

Thanks all.