Kleeneeze or Betterware?

Peter_Pan

Morethanconcerned wrote: »

A good move - in an ironic twist a leaflet offering earnings of **£400 - £ 600 a month **Part Time** Delivering and collecting catalogues** dropped through my door toady. I fear that with todays difficult times more people will be suckered in by this. It would cost someone a fortune in fuel and catalogues building a customer base big enough to pay £4 - 600 after tax and costs.

Terrible really - I feel a fool for even falling for it but I did.

I keep saying this but if they advertised it in a fairer way rather than quoting figures which yes can be achieved (because we did it) but takes considerable effort over a period of at least 6 months unless you invest in masses of brochures and work it fulltime.

I don't think you should feel a fool Morethanconcerned because you have obviously learnt things from it , we learnt masses from our Kleeneze days particularly down the personal development path and i will continue that throughout my life. I also learnt some valuable skills which i am expanding on in my current venture, in fact i look at my Kleeneze experience as a learning curve and great training in various marketing and networking skills and any type of training doesn't come cheap so i think it was worth every penny i spent.

Jeanetteathome

Peter_Pan wrote: »

I keep saying this but if they advertised it in a fairer way rather than quoting figures which yes can be achieved (because we did it) but takes considerable effort over a period of at least 6 months unless you invest in masses of brochures and work it fulltime.

I don't think you should feel a fool Morethanconcerned because you have obviously learnt things from it , we learnt masses from our Kleeneze days particularly down the personal development path and i will continue that throughout my life. I also learnt some valuable skills which i am expanding on in my current venture, in fact i look at my Kleeneze experience as a learning curve and great training in various marketing and networking skills and any type of training doesn't come cheap so i think it was worth every penny i spent.

I did it for 11 months and was no further forward than I was at the start, I really worked hard and spared no expense as I like others here bought into the idea I could build a workable business and expand it. The sponsoring was especially expensive and gained me nothing, few stick with this and many see the light much quicker than others.

The retailing just wasn't worth doing, it cost so much and takes such time for little return. Even if I had recruited someone who would have stayed I'd have got very little from them in bonus as I could barely get any income from retailing , I barely got over 10% .

We did all the conferences and the seminars, it was interesting and entertaining but I wouldn't say it taught me anything, a lot of it seemed like US style new age personal development stuff. It was eagerly taken up by many and the uplines loved it but at the end of the day a lot of it is hokum really , just smart words to blind recruits with . if they dumped all that and got back to basics it might work but with stuff so ridiculously expensive in the books it just isn't worth it.

Ypaymore

I notice Kleeneze have just this weekend changed their joining fees . Now trying to tempt people with a free sign up or 30% discounts, i guess their probaly recommend you take the £156 package if anybody was tempted.

See http://dsa.kleeneze.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/ukgetstarted.pdf Not a distributor link.

billsavings

The Free To Join Kleeneze Scheme is not really to free to join.You get a few (5) catologues to show Friends and Family and a few other odds and sods.
and then you get the opportunity to upgrade at no cost to a full account within 21 days. You then have to purchase whatever sales aids ,catalogues etc etc you need at full cost to get going.

The idea being apparently that with the first profits you make from the 5 cats you can then buy your sales aids like the catalogues etc. Their having a larf.:eek:

Lady_Python

billsavings wrote: »

The Free To Join Kleeneze Scheme is not really to free to join.You get a few (5) catologues to show Friends and Family and a few other odds and sods.
and then you get the opportunity to upgrade at no cost to a full account within 21 days. You then have to purchase whatever sales aids ,catalogues etc etc you need at full cost to get going.

The idea being apparently that with the first profits you make from the 5 cats you can then buy your sales aids like the catalogues etc. Their having a larf.:eek:

The are having a laugh aren't they?

ROFLMFAO:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

Jeanetteathome

billsavings wrote: »

The Free To Join Kleeneze Scheme is not really to free to join.You get a few (5) catologues to show Friends and Family and a few other odds and sods.
and then you get the opportunity to upgrade at no cost to a full account within 21 days. You then have to purchase whatever sales aids ,catalogues etc etc you need at full cost to get going.

The idea being apparently that with the first profits you make from the 5 cats you can then buy your sales aids like the catalogues etc. Their having a larf.:eek:

The problem here is they know the first places a person will go with these few books is their family and friends, who , wanting to support their relative or friend will buy stuff even if they don't really want it. I've seen this myself. Of course they won't earn a lot but they might get £25 of orders and the uplines will say "" See the books do work so imagine if you had 250 books!" so the person upgrades to a full account for £165 and the whole sorry saga starts. They'll put out the books , people don't buy, they don't get all the books back, they buy more , people still don't buy to the levels promised and they end up out of pocket. But Kleeneze will have shifted a bit of stock and some catalogues, a win win situation for them.

billsavings

harvkent . Tracey and Harvey of Kleeneze Fame ! If you want to a meaningful contribution to the discussion about Kleeneze thats good.:D

But no advertising,recruiting ,posting Kleeneze links are allowed.

geordie_joe

harvkent wrote: »

Hi we have been doing Kleeneze for over 4 years now

Have noticed that it's only the people who are trying to recruit that earn the big money?

They claim to have made money from the beginning, and now make so much they have quit there full time job and only do kleeneze part time.

Yet the people who are not trying to recruit tell a very different story.

ColinAllCars

Every now and again where i live you get a new distributor putting out the catalogues. 4 in 6 months last year . You only ever see them once. Their all recruited by the same local distributor peddling them the Kleeneze dream.:rotfl:

shirleymarye

Why do I not believe it????