Kleeneeze or Betterware?

givusajob

I am actually thinking of giving it a go..

I see a lot of negativity in this thread mostly from people who have not worked for kleeneze or have as they themselves put it, got no where with it.
I am really looking for unbiased opinions and advice, not the ramblings of a bitter x agent or the advice of those who know little about it.

if there is anyone out there that suits this profile I would like to hear from you.

thanks.

niftyone

givusajob wrote: »

I am actually thinking of giving it a go.

Whats stopping you its free to join.

Be interesting to know if you find it is like many long term ex-distributors say it is, and if it is Tat in a Cat as suggested by some knowledgeable members here.

geordie_joe

givusajob wrote: »

I am actually thinking of giving it a go..

I see a lot of negativity in this thread mostly from people who have not worked for kleeneze or have as they themselves put it, got no where with it.
I am really looking for unbiased opinions and advice, not the ramblings of a bitter x agent or the advice of those who know little about it.

if there is anyone out there that suits this profile I would like to hear from you.

thanks.

You'll never get the unbiased opinion you want. You say you don't want "the advice of those who know little about it", so that only leaves those who have tried it. The will be biased in favour of what their experience was. Those who made money from it will say it's good, and those who didn't will say it is not good.

In my experience most people don't place an order, and those who do rarely order a second or third time.

After reading many threads and posts about Kleeneze I have noticed that the only people who say they have a lot of regular customers are those who are actively recruiting others.

If you do want to try stuffing catalogues through doors, go for one which is free to join, that way all you can lose is time and effort.

givusajob

niftyone wrote: »

Whats stopping you its free to join.

Be interesting to know if you find it is like many long term ex-distributors say it is, and if it is Tat in a Cat as suggested by some knowledgeable members here.

This is the problem, I'm in two minds, see a lot of for's and againsts, I don't want to be wasting my time but on the other hand I dont want to miss out on a good opportunity!

If I do start, I will certainly let you know how it goes...
thanks.

lincroft1710

givusajob wrote: »

I don't want to be wasting my time but on the other hand I dont want to miss out on a good opportunity!

Well unless you actually do the job, you won't find out! Whether you are successful or not will depend on 5 things, luck, hard work, price of product(s), quality of product(s) and desirability of product(s). And only one of those will you have any input into.

OldGreyFox

Kleeneze have just started selling online http://www.kleenezeshop.com so expect the door to door catalogue business to diminish in the long term.

Jeanetteathome

petestan wrote: »

I don't know the poster but I get email alerts whenever someone posts in this thread (as I presume you do) hence why I thanked the poster. Unfortunately most people posting in this thread just slag the company off no matter what is said so it's nice to have someone saying something positive for a change.
At a guess I would think that if you search google for kleeneze this will be one of the early links you would see with MSE being so popular.

Pity you didn't pick up on the glaring errors - the 450 free books? whats all that then? Isn't it obvious to you by now that many keelenze agents trawl the net looking for Kleeneze threads on forums then join and say how they just started and are earning loads etc etc. Usually using the same jargon.

Of course they never return to say how they are getting on do they? Plus they never have ANY problems of lost books, overlap of distributors, rubbish overpriced products, endless costs that keep being added to, the problems of recruitment and retention .

None of this happens in kleeneze la la land and anyone that says it does is a *loser* or a *moaner* or something else like that. It's called reality - I've been to all the meeting and seminars I've heard Rob Forster talk a pile of stuff that would make roses grow!

Jeanetteathome

OldGreyFox wrote: »

Kleeneze have just started selling online http://www.kleenezeshop.com so expect the door to door catalogue business to diminish in the long term.

Big debate about this over on the squidoo site - eventually pro kleeneze people had to come along and slag everyone off and generally ,make a nuisance of themselves but some very good points were raised about this. The fact distributors can choose their areas upto 20 miles radius - here is a sure fire way of kleeneze finding out where everyone works ready to take this to a zoned operation.

It costs a lot too - what with the eze reach line , the Mykleenezespace website too - all this along with the regular fees means they are trawling in upto £25 a month from every distributor.

Jeanetteathome

givusajob wrote: »

This is the problem, I'm in two minds, see a lot of for's and againsts, I don't want to be wasting my time but on the other hand I dont want to miss out on a good opportunity!

If I do start, I will certainly let you know how it goes...
thanks.

Unless you already have a good income - with money and time to freely use without hardship then DON'T DO IT. If you are in anyway short of money then this is not for you - do not be fooled it will cost you a fortune in catalogues and sundry items as well as regular monthly fees. If you speak up about these you'll be branded a loser by your upline who then will be of no use to you and will ignore you - it's their way or the highway .

9 out of 10 people leave Kleeneze for a good reason - all you are doing is subsidising kleeneze's operations in your area. At the end of the day you'll be out of pocket but Kleeneze will have shifted some products.

Jeanetteathome

geordie_joe wrote: »

You'll never get the unbiased opinion you want. You say you don't want "the advice of those who know little about it", so that only leaves those who have tried it. The will be biased in favour of what their experience was. Those who made money from it will say it's good, and those who didn't will say it is not good.

In my experience most people don't place an order, and those who do rarely order a second or third time.

After reading many threads and posts about Kleeneze I have noticed that the only people who say they have a lot of regular customers are those who are actively recruiting others.

If you do want to try stuffing catalogues through doors, go for one which is free to join, that way all you can lose is time and effort.

With 5 books in the free to join offer it's utterly pointless - they'll need to make £125 with those to then qualify for an upgrade to a full account. Either way they'll end up buying 200 books.

It reeks to high heaven !