Kleeneeze or Betterware?

JennyJewell

I think views should be balanced and don't think there is any need for nastiness from any side. I also didn't say Pat isn't just pleased for me - Pat has congratulated anyone doing well, the same as I have. I would also congratulate any Betterware agents who were doing well also - to be honest I would congratulate anyone doing well and following their dreams

Talking of dreams - I feel that I am at a bit of a crossroads at the moment, I mentioned in my early posts that my dream is to teach, it has been since I was 4 years old I know what this business can give me but I also know where my heart is - I think of teaching every single day! What do I do and where do I start? Does anyone know any threads on here that can help me please?
I do hope I can make the right decision though - there is no ceiling for what you can earn with a MLM business but I feel that I am meant to be teaching - I feel no greater satisfaction than when I am in work supporting the children, it feels natural and I feel completely at home with it.
Can anyone help please?
Many thanx,
Jenny x

Should_be_out_gardening

JennyJewell wrote: »

I think views should be balanced and don't think there is any need for nastiness from any side. I also didn't say Pat isn't just pleased for me - Pat has congratulated anyone doing well, the same as I have. I would also congratulate any Betterware agents who were doing well also - to be honest I would congratulate anyone doing well and following their dreams

Talking of dreams - I feel that I am at a bit of a crossroads at the moment, I mentioned in my early posts that my dream is to teach, it has been since I was 4 years old I know what this business can give me but I also know where my heart is - I think of teaching every single day! What do I do and where do I start? Does anyone know any threads on here that can help me please?
I do hope I can make the right decision though - there is no ceiling for what you can earn with a MLM business but I feel that I am meant to be teaching - I feel no greater satisfaction than when I am in work supporting the children, it feels natural and I feel completely at home with it.
Can anyone help please?
Many thanx,
Jenny x

It'as not about patrick being pleased it's his maniacal defence of kleenze given he doesn't do it and hasn't done it for a decade and when he did he did a week! thats what is getting peoples backs up here , not that he doesn't agree with this or that but he approach he takes with it all.

He DOESN'T EVEN DO kleeneze and when he did he did a WEEK. Can you see how this might appear to people?

As to what you want to do - why ask here? Go and get the qualifications and become a teacher simple as that. Lets be honest you must have the time to study as you don't just do kleenze do you. you do loads of other MLMs . I read the forums , when this or that cosmetic company comes up there you are telling folk how you are doing it.

Bite the bullet , get the qualifications and go for it - be honest with yourself, you aren't going to make a fortune at kleenze, you aren't ever going to be able to sit back and live on royalty income, few make bronze now they used to give the holidays for getting bronze and holding it for several periods now it's gold and that comes with no residual.

Its up to you really , no one else.

JennyJewell

I don't do any other MLM's or any other party plan companies currently - they are old posts and I have tried loads,lol! I do however pop up on other forums where people have asked about certain companies and I can tell them what my experience was with them - I have enjoyed every one I have been in. I think I don't last because it's not really what my heart is telling me to do.
There is a massive residual income to be made with lots of companies and I am capable of doing it - when I do something I give it my all, if even for only a short time. However, my heart has always been to teach I really don't stop thinking about it and I believe to really succeed in anything in life you have to have the passion for it, I am incredibly passionate about my day job and love every minute of it.
I just need to find a way of getting the qualifications - I can't afford to leave my job and as I work in a Special Needs school I'm gaining experience every day towards the real chosen career I want in life. I'll have a look at evening classes
I have really got to do this I think - otherwise I'll reach a certain age and regret not following my dream. My children are nearly 14 and 18 so they will have their own lives by the time I qualify which works out well for all of us
Thank you for listening should be out gardening - I do appreciate it
Jenny x

Sammy246

JennyJewell wrote: »

Well done to your cousin

Thanks JennyJewell - it has been hard work for him certainly not easy, long hours and some weeks he works 7 days!!! But all paying off now, thanks for the response!!

Sammy246

PatrickD wrote: »

Great to hear the positive side on here Sammy. Well done!

Pat

Cheers patrick...hard work paying off for him...he is very happy!!!

Thanks for the response

Sammy246

Should_be_out_gardening wrote: »

If you are that impressed why aren't you doing it?

Lets be honest here , that cheque is the one he shows to recruit, thats what they tell you to do. The thing is that money isn't guaranteed, he'll get that one month and might get half that the next month, but his costs remain the same. Thats why people jack this is quicker than they can recruit them.

For all that if he is a relation then you might be best to sign up with him as he'll have to make sure you won't fall by the wayside or it'll make him look bad.

I'm not doing it because i do not want to spend all the time he has, I don't have his patience either...my comment on this thread was to merely say that it can be done if you work hard and give it your best shot...thats all...sharing an experience, whether it be mine or a relation!!

Should_be_out_gardening

JennyJewell wrote: »

I don't do any other MLM's or any other party plan companies currently - they are old posts and I have tried loads,lol! I do however pop up on other forums where people have asked about certain companies and I can tell them what my experience was with them - I have enjoyed every one I have been in. I think I don't last because it's not really what my heart is telling me to do.
There is a massive residual income to be made with lots of companies and I am capable of doing it - when I do something I give it my all, if even for only a short time. However, my heart has always been to teach I really don't stop thinking about it and I believe to really succeed in anything in life you have to have the passion for it, I am incredibly passionate about my day job and love every minute of it.
I just need to find a way of getting the qualifications - I can't afford to leave my job and as I work in a Special Needs school I gaining experience every day towards the real chosen career I want in life. I'll have a look at evening classes
I have really got to do this I think - otherwise I'll reach a certain age and regret not following my dream. My children are nearly 14 and 18 so they will have their own lives by the time I qualify which works out well for all of us
Thank you for listening should be out gardening - I do appreciate it
Jenny x

Thats the thing , this going from one MLM to another , if they are really as good as people say why change? but I don't care about other ones, it's Kleeneze I am on about , you'll get no royalty income here , if they don't put out books you'll get nothing. Unless you can recruit someone who stays for years you'll be recruiting till the cows come home . In Gavin scotts team the top recruiter got 129 people, yet as we've pointed out here they only rose up the plan by a gold equivalent.

It's akin to pushing a stone up a slippy hill.

By gavins own website off his FB page it says and I quote

***Part time earnings of over £100 per week for 5-10 hours***

I worked twice that and never got anywhere near it.

ColinAllCars

Sammy246 wrote: »

My cousin has been doing Kleeneze now for about 2 years, from what I ave heard he is doing really well. Last month he showed me his cheque from them and it was £2,124.00 not bad...!!! He showed me his pay cheque as he was very proud of his progress...most the family have been saying similar things to people on here that it's a con and your wasting your time...but he seems to have done really well with it!!!

What you dont mention is that Kleeneze cheques produced for publicity purpose,s and often posted on the web to attract recruitsts show the gross income before the deduction of hefty expenses and tax and national insurance.

A friend of mind showed me one last year for a largish amount.I sat down and worked out for him on the back of an envelope what his take home pay was. He was extremely disappointed to see the modest returns he had actually made for the long hours he had put in trudging the streets,attending meetings,etc.

Should_be_out_gardening

Sammy246 wrote: »

I'm not doing it because i do not want to spend all the time he has, I don't have his patience either...my comment on this thread was to merely say that it can be done if you work hard and give it your best shot...thats all...sharing an experience, whether it be mine or a relation!!

There are people here who have done three years full time , I never stopped but I just couldn't even earn minimum wage, it just costs so much to do. Your cousin may spend half that amount just funding it all.

It's a racket really.

Should_be_out_gardening

ColinAllCars wrote: »

What you dont mention is that Kleeneze cheques produced for publicity purpose,s and often posted on the web to attract recruitsts show the gross income before the deduction of hefty expenses and tax and national insurance.

A friend of mind showed me one last year for a largish amount.I sat down and worked out for him on the back of an envelope what his take home pay was. He was extremely disappointed to see the modest returns he had actually made for the long hours he had put in trudging the streets,attending meetings,etc.

Thats the case - they did all that at the meetings showing the cheques but a little digging and I found out they show only the best cheques and never take into account all the costs like books fuel charges etc.