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  • niftyone
    niftyone Posts: 295 Forumite
    I find it a bit strange that the link was removed

    It was removed because it breached the site rules.
  • wongawonga
    wongawonga Posts: 387 Forumite
    edited 14 January 2012 at 6:25PM
    it's not a small hall

    Its small compared to others they have used in past. Which was the point i was trying to make Jenny. :D

    I noticed you dont deny people were crammed in, and that not all the space was being utilised.Probaly for effect. Or were your fellow delegates making this up.

    More and more distributors not being sucked in by the motivational rah/rah nonsense saving the cash and watching online instead.Apparently the leaders have got the hump about this.
  • Peter_Pan
    Peter_Pan Posts: 791 Forumite
    Honest John - that's just myself retailing, I have only rejoined myself about 6 weeks ago and have started teambuilding very recently.
    wongawonga - When I was a Kleeneze distributor 7 years ago the NIA was used for the conferences then, I remember going to the NEC once and lots of us found it cold and uncomfortable so maybe that's why Kleeneze have stuck to the NIA? Either way, tbh, I don't care, it was a brilliant day :)
    Don't be so picky - I was there, obviously I meant I wanted to see if they had caught me on camera :cool:
    If you look back over the posts I stated straight away I was with Kleeneze :)

    Jen
    I can remember going to the NEC and the NIA to conferences when we were in Kleeneze, i'm sure it has nothing to do with numbers as to which venue they choose.

    Debbie

    We love what we are doing and we love why we're doing it!!
  • Peter_Pan
    Peter_Pan Posts: 791 Forumite
    He's here to support peter pan and jennyjewell who also do other MLM things possibly with him . As gardening said , he has been on several threads recently that have ended in arguing and been central to those arguments and now they are pulled. Which is what he wants here.

    Like you are here to support all the other anti MLM people who regularly post on here!!!. i think both Jenny and myself (and i hasten to add we are not in the same MLM ) have both made useful money for our families from the retailing , Kleeneze helped at a very difficult time for us and when it could help others in a similar situation i will make sure my experience is stated and heard on this forum.
    Its no difference to you coming on here making it plain what your experience was - theres always two sides to everything .

    Debbie
    We love what we are doing and we love why we're doing it!!
  • Peter_Pan
    Peter_Pan Posts: 791 Forumite
    Thank you HonestJohn and Pat :)
    Yes it is net profit - I don't drive so no petrol costs there, just my feet :) I'm fortunate to be receiving enough orders that my delivery is currently for free. I'm earning free books because of the volume of my orders and I deliver between 45 and 65 books once a week - should be delivering the full 125 I have but have been a bit lazy to be honest, (although I do work full time in a school and have been building a team also so I'll excuse myself).
    Jen

    This is how Network Marketing should be - building a local, compact customer base which helps keeps costs down, i also started on foot with my 3 year at the time in the pushchair, hubby now uses a bicycle and a trailer which we picked up cheap off ebay a while ago as my daughter is now 12 and i don't have a pushchair anymore;).

    I did used to find the delivery of mops and buckets a real pain though using the pushchair and did used to perhaps occasionally resort to using the car on those occasions. Have to say thats one thing i don't miss all the larger items for delivery and the massive boxes they arrived in .

    Debbie
    We love what we are doing and we love why we're doing it!!
  • Peter_Pan wrote: »
    This is how Network Marketing should be - building a local, compact customer base which helps keeps costs down, i also started on foot with my 3 year at the time in the pushchair, hubby now uses a bicycle and a trailer which we picked up cheap off ebay a while ago as my daughter is now 12 and i don't have a pushchair anymore;).

    I did used to find the delivery of mops and buckets a real pain though using the pushchair and did used to perhaps occasionally resort to using the car on those occasions. Have to say thats one thing i don't miss all the larger items for delivery and the massive boxes they arrived in .

    Debbie

    A friend of mine saw your husband last week round the HP22 5 area said he looked pretty uneasy :rotfl:on the bike :D

    Regards
    John
    The Seeker of Truth & Justice for all
  • jhp
    jhp Posts: 2,342 Forumite
    edited 14 January 2012 at 8:13PM
    Peter_Pan wrote: »
    hubby now uses a bicycle and a trailer

    Do you advertise your opportunity on it Debbie ? :D
  • Peter_Pan wrote: »
    Like you are here to support all the other anti MLM people who regularly post on here!!!. i think both Jenny and myself (and i hasten to add we are not in the same MLM ) have both made useful money for our families from the retailing , Kleeneze helped at a very difficult time for us and when it could help others in a similar situation i will make sure my experience is stated and heard on this forum.
    Its no difference to you coming on here making it plain what your experience was - theres always two sides to everything .

    Debbie

    No the difference is I have actually done kleeneze - I have over three years experience of it and followed a link from elsewhere here when some kleeneze distributor was jawing about how you could earn £1000's etc, I did a detailed breakdown of just what was actually involved in *big* retail. That was last early last year or earlier. That there are people here that have the same experiences and can give high;y detailed accounts (and have) goes to show that there is a problem with Kleeneze.

    Now patrickD by his OWN admission only did this a week , yet thinks this gives him and expert knowledge, it doesn't. He then along with you , jenny and others goes round this forum blowing off about MLM schemes, till those threads get pulled. Like others I spend more time reading than posting , I see what's going on here.

    Kid yourselves if you like, doesn't fool me.
  • Had a Betterware Catalogue put in door this week with order form and pleasant note giving date to be left out etc. Was collected when they said it would be,unlike the last few occassions when i have had a Kleeneze one and it was left for ages getting wet and tatty or not even collected.

    I wonder how many people join them put out the catalogues once and say blow this for a game of soldiers and throw in the towel.
  • billsavings
    billsavings Posts: 2,015 Forumite
    Peter_Pan wrote: »
    Its no difference to you coming on here making it plain what your experience was

    Big difference is Morethanconcerned does not come here in the hope of recruiting people and placing advertorials.
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