Kleeneeze or Betterware?

niftyone

PatrickD wrote: »

This video does not lead to recruiting sites and I'm not in Kleeneze anyway so why would I be bothered recruiting? I have reported you for lying.

Pat

Disclaimer: I'm not here to recruit anyone or ask them to pm me

Strange how the link to the Kleeneze Video you posted then was removed if there was no truth in my comments.

I strongly object to you calling me a liar and i await an apology.:mad:

wongawonga

JennyJewell wrote: »

Small hall?? It's the NIA in Birmingham!!! :rotfl:
And please don't tell me I'm wrong because I was there!! And it was a fantastic day and I am allowed to say that because I am allowed to have an opinion and I'm not rude or offensive to anyone.
Jen

The NIA is part of the NEC Group. Kleeneze have used the larger NEC before but as interest diminishes they have moved to the smaller venue.( Which of course holds a fair few people ).

Quite a few delegates have been complaining how they were packed in ,and that certain sections were blocked off . Clearly to give the impression that a lot of people were in attendance. Numbers diminish each year do they not?

Should you not be declaring an interest that you work for Kleeneze as a distributor when responding to posts.

wongawonga

JennyJewell wrote: »

I'm going to watch it and see if I'm in the audience

Earlier you said you were. Are you not sure ?

wongawonga

Honest_John_666 wrote: »

Taken form the squid site

http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/community/company_donates_2k_to_children_s_charity_1_3337745

HOW LOW DOES THIS SCUM COMPANY HAVE TO GO :mad:

Regards
John

Thats awful if they are taking a profit from there charity work,without declaring it to participants.
A few of them appear to do this type of charity work. At the very least they should declare they make a gain from it also.

Honest_John_666

JennyJewell wrote: »

Small hall?? It's the NIA in Birmingham!!! :rotfl:
And please don't tell me I'm wrong because I was there!! And it was a fantastic day and I am allowed to say that because I am allowed to have an opinion and I'm not rude or offensive to anyone.
Jen

As WW has said Kleeneze used to have 1000's going to these events. The numbers are dwindling every year this is a fact

The company is @ breaking point & I guartantee you something has to break very soon.

The streamlining that has happened over the last few years has been very noticable & I cant think what will be next BUT it will be @ the cost of the agent.

I feel very sorry for those that listen to the BS thats comes out of the top people & complete idiots that reply on this thread that MLM is the way forward.

Kleeneze has one of the worst repuatations in the direct sales world. They wont be around for ever & every yaer the sales dwindle. They even gave the books free & still the sales went backwards :rotfl:

Everyone NORMAL reading this thread must read between the lines thats why you dont get many Kleeneze people on here

MLM - NWM - its building dreams & very cult like. Yes the ones right at the top are doing well. Yes there might be others doing OK. Yes there might be some earning a little.

I'm very sure that anyone going into Kleeneze today will never make it to the top or in fact get anywhere near. Cast iron certainty.

They are struggling to get qualifiers to this holiday. They are lowering the targets every year.

Good luck to anyone that is retailing or those that are recruiting honestly!

Regards
John

Honest_John_666

JennyJewell wrote: »

Thank you HonestJohn and Pat
Yes it is net profit - I don't drive so no petrol costs there, just my feet I'm fortunate to be receiving enough orders that my delivery is currently for free. I'm earning free books because of the volume of my orders and I deliver between 45 and 65 books once a week - should be delivering the full 125 I have but have been a bit lazy to be honest, (although I do work full time in a school and have been building a team also so I'll excuse myself).
Jen

Thanks Jen

I'm always a beleiver that you will buy anything from someone you really like regardless of what it is & what price it is

Sounds as though you have a close by customer base & thats great for you.

You say you earn this amount from retailing or is this the amount you earn from retailing & your team???

Regards
John

JennyJewell

Honest John - that's just myself retailing, I have only rejoined myself about 6 weeks ago and have started teambuilding very recently.
wongawonga - When I was a Kleeneze distributor 7 years ago the NIA was used for the conferences then, I remember going to the NEC once and lots of us found it cold and uncomfortable so maybe that's why Kleeneze have stuck to the NIA? Either way, tbh, I don't care, it was a brilliant day
Don't be so picky - I was there, obviously I meant I wanted to see if they had caught me on camera :cool:
If you look back over the posts I stated straight away I was with Kleeneze
Jen

Morethanconcerned

JennyJewell wrote: »

Small hall?? It's the NIA in Birmingham!!! :rotfl:
And please don't tell me I'm wrong because I was there!! And it was a fantastic day and I am allowed to say that because I am allowed to have an opinion and I'm not rude or offensive to anyone.
Jen

Well I'm sorry but you are wrong, the full NIA hall hold upto 7000, they section off the various parts of the hall to make one two or four halls. This conference had little over 2000 there and used the smaller sectioned off hall. When I went to them they used the larger twice sectioned hall to get 5000 in on seating.

The numbers attended are down each year , it's too expensive for people to travel there and it costs money for each member of the distributorship , not per distributorship. Now especially you can see it online . I have been to them and fended off requests to go to some of them , taking on board the critique that I was committed or that my business (LOL) wouldn't grow if I wasn't there. Didn't say that when the end of period figures came in with 18% retail alone, oh no instead of wasting a day and money going to brum I had to try and earn money as I had bills to pay.

Training my a*** , it's clapping and whooping like a cult.

Morethanconcerned

Honest_John_666 wrote: »

As WW has said Kleeneze used to have 1000's going to these events. The numbers are dwindling every year this is a fact

The company is @ breaking point & I guartantee you something has to break very soon.

The streamlining that has happened over the last few years has been very noticable & I cant think what will be next BUT it will be @ the cost of the agent.

I feel very sorry for those that listen to the BS thats comes out of the top people & complete idiots that reply on this thread that MLM is the way forward.

Kleeneze has one of the worst repuatations in the direct sales world. They wont be around for ever & every yaer the sales dwindle. They even gave the books free & still the sales went backwards :rotfl:

Everyone NORMAL reading this thread must read between the lines thats why you dont get many Kleeneze people on here

MLM - NWM - its building dreams & very cult like. Yes the ones right at the top are doing well. Yes there might be others doing OK. Yes there might be some earning a little.

I'm very sure that anyone going into Kleeneze today will never make it to the top or in fact get anywhere near. Cast iron certainty.

They are struggling to get qualifiers to this holiday. They are lowering the targets every year.

Good luck to anyone that is retailing or those that are recruiting honestly!

Regards
John

The laugh about how many qualify for Miami - forgetting that now all (I say all but it's next to impossible nowadays) they have to reach is Gold, that is about 7 - 10 people below the, . When I saw the debacle of Club Med 2 when not enough people got bronze ( gold level with TWO full golds below) to actually go they picked hig earning golds out of a hat !!!!!!.

Gold used to be supposedly the easiest of ALL the levels, few get it now.

Morethanconcerned

NeverInDebt wrote: »

PatrickD if your not recruiting why are you always on here this thread all time. Do you have a life?

I've always wondered that , now he is posting kleeneze videos , yet he isn't in kleeneze and has never done it or has done a week whichever he decides to say .

He's here to support peter pan and jennyjewell who also do other MLM things possibly with him . As gardening said , he has been on several threads recently that have ended in arguing and been central to those arguments and now they are pulled. Which is what he wants here.