Kleeneeze or Betterware?

Honest_John_666

petestan wrote: »

Why don't they stack up John? They are proof of what each person / persons have personally retailed in a 4 week period, kleeneze themselves do not give these figures out therefore I cannot link to anywhere else that shows them.

I have the email from my group leader that shows the top retailers in my group but after the previous poster complained about me naming names I am not prepared to publish them on this site. I will say the top retailer in my group (NOT in my team), retailed 5930 pts which is £6,967 in the 4 weeks the figures go down to the 30th retailer who did 863 pts or £1014. Our group only shows retailers down to £1000+ there will be others who did not retail £1000.

Hi Pete

I'm very confused here :eek:

The top retailer in your group sold £6967 over 4 weeks this equates to £1741 per week which = @ 21% £365 in earnings???

I'm sure this is wrong

What does the top person in your group earn (Roughly) from delivering & collecting the books???

Whats does some who retails 2100 points earn in cash over a 4 week period - I'm thinking this means delivering & collecting books

Still very confused??? I'm trying to figure out Kleenezes sales (this figure is including books, meetings, stationary, start-up kits, ordering costs, returns costs, Internet costs, recruiting DVD's - have I missed anything here) of £62 million & how this actually relates to this blog from Gavin Scott

Regards
John

geordie_joe

Honest_John_666 wrote: »

Cheers Geordie :T Into Footie???

So........ the ave. according to this link is £1464........ which is £366 per week........which @ 21% comm is............. £77 GROSS earnings......... Am I on the right track here???

Still confused :eek:

Regards
John

Not into football, but you are on the right track.

petestan

Honest_John_666 wrote: »

Cheers Pete.

Where is Brian Harwood on this long list???

Looks like you one of the better people on the list, is that fair to say???

Regards
John

Hi John, Brian Harwood doesn't retail a lot, he usually does around £1000 per period but not always and that is it, he tends to concentrate on the networking side, it's everyone's own choice how to work the business.

I am usually around the 100th place mark give or take a few places. Our group leaders are Heather + James O'neil who do similar.

Honest_John_666

geordie_joe wrote: »

Not into football, but you are on the right track.

On the right track that the ave one earns £77 - not great is it when out of the comes all the expenses???

I should imagine the ave. one in this group hardly make any money at all :mad:

£77 per week......... all that hype & all these expenses.

If this is true & looking at the list Pete supplied there's absolutley thousands of them all out there & most of them not earning a bean

Is that correct???

Regards
John

petestan

Honest_John_666 wrote: »

Hi Pete

I'm very confused here :eek:

The top retailer in your group sold £6967 over 4 weeks this equates to £1741 per week which = @ 21% £365 in earnings???

I'm sure this is wrong

What does the top person in your group earn (Roughly) from delivering & collecting the books???

Whats does some who retails 2100 points earn in cash over a 4 week period - I'm thinking this means delivering & collecting books

Still very confused??? I'm trying to figure out Kleenezes sales (this figure is including books, meetings, stationary, start-up kits, ordering costs, returns costs, Internet costs, recruiting DVD's - have I missed anything here) of £62 million & how this actually relates to this blog from Gavin Scott

Regards
John

Hi john, the top earner in out group did £6967 of personal retail that means they earned £1463.07 at 21% retail profit plus £975.38 for hitting 21% bonus level which works out at 14% cash, so in 4 weeks they earned £2,438.45 at least, in reality they actually hit the next level of 24% as they had at least one team member also retailing and they hit the "Gold" level. So they actually earned £1672.08 at least on top of the £1463.07 retail profit.
As for all the rest I'll get back to you later but suffice it to say that all your catalogue costs, internet costs, meeting costs, telephone, petrol, etc. plus some household costs are all allowable against tax so come straight off anything you have to pay to the taxman as they are a business expense.

Honest_John_666

petestan wrote: »

Hi John, Brian Harwood doesn't retail a lot, he usually does around £1000 per period but not always and that is it, he tends to concentrate on the networking side, it's everyone's own choice how to work the business.

I am usually around the 100th place mark give or take a few places. Our group leaders are Heather + James O'neil who do similar.

Hi Pete

Are both these peolpe on the list???

If so where???

Regards
John

Honest_John_666

petestan wrote: »

Hi john, the top earner in out group did £6967 of personal retail that means they earned £1463.07 at 21% retail profit plus £975.38 for hitting 21% bonus level which works out at 14% cash, so in 4 weeks they earned £2,438.45 at least, in reality they actually hit the next level of 24% as they had at least one team member also retailing and they hit the "Gold" level. So they actually earned £1672.08 at least on top of the £1463.07 retail profit.
As for all the rest I'll get back to you later but suffice it to say that all your catalogue costs, internet costs, meeting costs, telephone, petrol, etc. plus some household costs are all allowable against tax so come straight off anything you have to pay to the taxman as they are a business expense.

Thanks again Pete

The top person in your group (The Gavin Scott Group) earned £3135 in one set of 4 week period - £783 per week minus expenses

This isn't too bad is it. :T

I was talking to a good friend this weekend & he's in the road game. He was telling my that they earn £600 per week which made me sick :mad:

So...... the top person in your group earns/earned £783 minus expenses in the last 4 week period - is this correct???

If so how long as he being doing this???

Is this SHEPHERD(2) (UK) 7371.19???

Regards
John

petestan

Honest_John_666 wrote: »

Thanks again Pete

The top person in your group (The Gavin Scott Group) earned £3135 in one set of 4 week period - £783 per week minus expenses

This isn't too bad is it. :T

I was talking to a good friend this weekend & he's in the road game. He was telling my that they earn £600 per week which made me sick :mad:

So...... the top person in your group earns/earned £783 minus expenses in the last 4 week period - is this correct???

If so how long as he being doing this???

Is this SHEPHERD(2) (UK) 7371.19???

Regards
John

Hi John, Shepherd is the top retailer in Gavin's whole group I don't know them at all so I have no idea how long they have been doing it sorry. The top retailer in my group is K Ward who is a new gold distributor. To be honest I don't her but she isn't usually in the top retailers so I am guessing that she wants to go on the Hong Kong conference and so she has decided to do massive retail herself to qualify. This is pure speculation on my part but the usual top retailers in my group did around £4,300 of retail earning themselves around £1400 for 4 weeks they have been doing Kleeneze for around 4 to 5 years I think.
Bear in mine we are in the middle of the summer holidays I don't think that's bad myself, in the run up to Xmas from late October onwards he will probably do two thirds extra to twice as much.

petestan

geordie_joe wrote: »

The figures are points, if you multiply the figure by 1.175 the result is the amount in pounds that each person has sold in that 4 week period.

The top earner sold £8,661.15 in that period and the lowest earner sold £764.11

The average is £1,464.10

Hi geordie joe there are 1260 names on that list so I don't know how you worked out the average but that seems low to me.
But working on £1464.10 you would earn £307.46 retail profit plus hit the 13% bonus level or 8% cash so that's an extra £117.13 total of £424.59 or £106.12 a week most people doing this retail will be doing it in their spare time doing just a few hours a week, I did that level of retail when I had a full time job also.

geordie_joe

petestan wrote: »

Hi geordie joe there are 1260 names on that list so I don't know how you worked out the average but that seems low to me.

I stuck the figures into a spreadsheet and used a formula. If you think it's a bit low, have a word with Bill Gates, it was his software that worked out the average

petestan wrote: »

But working on £1464.10 you would earn £307.46 retail profit plus hit the 13% bonus level or 8% cash so that's an extra £117.13 total of £424.59 or £106.12 a week most people doing this retail will be doing it in their spare time doing just a few hours a week, I did that level of retail when I had a full time job also.

Don't forget the list is only "the top retailers" it doesn't include those that do less than 764. If you add in those the average would be lower.