Kleeneeze or Betterware?

Morethanconcerned

CharlieBilly wrote: »

Recruitment they like to get others to do there work for them so they reap the rewards

There can't be any doubt - they want postive things said about MLM , then they say oh Kleeneze is bad with catalogues our company is so much better.

Pathetic if it wasn't so transparent.

watch how it pans out - they are good, very smooth , but I have first hand experience of these chancers.

cbrown372

Peter_Pan wrote: »

Okay guys and gals keep picking on the same few products that in your opinion are "quackery", there are over 850 products and growing, there are testimonials from people (distributors and customers) that say the products work and these people have done a before and after assessment. I can't say more than that as i haven't tried the product myself although with diesel prices on the increase its something we may consider ourselves and if we do will keep you all informed of the results.

If you have looked into Wikaniko yourselves you would see it reaches far deeper than just products to help the Planet, its the chemicals in everyday products and the cocktail we put on ourselves which concerns me and which people seem totally oblivious to, add that to the pesticides etc and growth hormones in the food we eat :eek:

Wikaniko is about one step at a time to living a more harmonious and sustainable lifestyle with the environment and i personally would add living together more harmoniously with each other as well. We have a Wikankook it section about feeding a family on a budget, organic growing newsletter about growing your own organic food as well as oodles of other resources to help everyone and guess what you don't have to be a distributor to gain access to them.

Debbie

what has this to do with Betterware and Kleeneeze?

PatrickD

Morethanconcerned wrote: »

Come back when you *actually* done kleeneze

why **are** you so keen to defend it anyway?

I'm here to defend the business system they use as this thread is about Kleeneze, an MLM company versus Betterware, a non MLM company.

I have ''done'' MLM for 20 years therefore I'm more than qualified to speak about it.

Pat

PatrickD

Morethanconcerned wrote: »

YOU'VE NEVER EVEN DONE IT

and I didn't fail - OK

Now be so kind as to explain why you spend SO much time here when you have ZERO , thats ZILCH , experience of Kleeneze?

Or is it that MLM for you is so wonderful - laughable as you say you've done it for 20ys - 20 yrs! why aren't you a millionaire then? why change ?

Some people are gullible - you fit the bill. Now a question awaits you on the wikiano thread , you'd be better of spending time there defending that *eco* company ( laugh)

People have worked for more than 20 years in a job and they're not millionaires. Does that make it a scam? I must say the level of debate is not very high on this thread. You're not very good are you.

Pat

PatrickD

cbrown372 wrote: »

what has this to do with Betterware and Kleeneeze?

Other posters keep bringing up Wikaniko into the thread by asking us questions. When we answer them, they accuse us of taking the thread off track. How weird is that?

Pat

ColinFishwick

Well you cant be selling much you never off here.

PatrickD wrote: »

People have worked for more than 20 years in a job and they're not millionaires. Does that make it a scam? I must say the level of debate is not very high on this thread. You're not very good are you.

Pat

PatrickD

ColinFishwick wrote: »

Well you cant be selling much you never off here.

On a Sunday afternoon/evening? :rotfl:

I would certainly would hope that people wouldnt be out selling at these times. Its a big advantage of having your own business, being able to do as you wish....sell when you want to, be on the internet when you want to etc. Thanks for your concern, but my business is doing just fine thanks.

Pat

ColinFishwick

Since when did I imply just Sunday do keep up.

PatrickD wrote: »

On a Sunday afternoon/evening? :rotfl:

I would certainly would hope that people wouldnt be out selling at these times. Its a big advantage of having your own business, being able to do as you wish....sell when you want to, be on the internet when you want to etc. Thanks for your concern, but my business is doing just fine thanks.

Pat

Peter_Pan

Morethanconcerned wrote: »

Why duck for cover unless you are being deliberately provocative , if Yousuf had a genuine point to make you'd stand by it. what a hoot!!! I've been around on here long enough to know what you are like

Insulting people that have been taken for a ride by Kleeneze by blaming them or making out they are somehow deficient is nothing more than insulting. Nobody is being insulted i am talking from my personal experience, it IS always easier to blame someone or something else, nobody is perfect so there is always something that could be changed

Unlike many I have actually done kleeneze for over three years and know all the tricks that they get up to, I followed the plan and did all that was asked and more. Fortunately for me my dream job appeared and I was off like a shot - 7 day a week working for peanuts - no thanks. Did you make an extra income from the brochures? 3 years of finding customers you must have had a good customer base.
Of course as you and a few here are up to their necks in MLM and the usual cult like flim flam that go with it I quote realise that you cannot see anyone else point of view. I can see your point of view but i have also learnt just over the last 18 months or so that my skills in certain aspects of what is needed for certain parts of it are lacking and can see that is why i wasn't successful in the past, i am now working on them and it has impacted on my life generally in positive ways.

But in any case you need not worry as we are on about Kleeneze here and I have asked an important question elsewhere about the company you go on about and I want answers. Frankly I'd rather do kleeneze than sell snake oil - now thats FACT.

Why not try it again then

Debbie

PatrickD

ColinFishwick wrote: »

Since when did I imply just Sunday do keep up.

Today is the longest I've ever been on here. Usually I look at this thread (takes about 5 minutes), maybe post a couple of times (10 to 15 minutes) and thats it. How does that relate to ''all the time''? I think you need to keep up.

Pat