Kleeneeze or Betterware?

Jeanetteathome

PatrickD wrote: »

My answer...mind your own business.

My question.... is there a rule stating that you need experience as a Kleeneze distributor before you can post on this thread? If so, please link to it.

Pat

**Mind his own business**???

I could say the same to you, telling me and others here were are failures and that we have ourselves to blame etc.

You haven't even done kleeneze , you seem to think you can comment when you haven't even done it.

I wouldn't dream of going to the Avon thread on the basis I have delivered catalogues, if I wanted to ask about a product I might but to do as you do , hectoring people and having a go.

Why are you *so* interested anyway? is it because your friends from your MLM do this so in a quid pro quo you back them then they back you? How very telling as to why people should avoid these companies and their business model , it makes people sly , untruthful and prepared to do and say anything to get ahead.

As others here have said, we gain nothing by being here, what do you gain?

Jeanetteathome

JennyJewell wrote: »

Hi peeps
Hi Pat and Deb
People are accusing Patrick of being rude to people on here - well I had a massive attacking from some of you on here so much so that people who haven't even commented on this thread personally pm'd me to advise me to ignore the rude remarks that were aimed at me!
I'm also guessing Pat hasn't changed because he is very happy in working with the company that he is?
There are plenty of negative comments being made about Wikaniko by people who have never tried it and it seems to be ok - yet comments made by Patrick and Debbie about MLM in general isn't?
Basically it seems to be that negative remarks that are made are ok and anything that is said in a positive light is frowned upon - how strange?
I originally came on here because I saw a thread that mentioned Kleeneze and wanted to share my good news - I didn't realise at the time it was some sort of hate page! Hence the reason I haven't visited for a while - I would rather chat to positive people, it doesn't have to be about business, just life in general.
Good luck all - life is for living and flys by far too quickly!
Jen

Well thats a nice twist on what really went on isn't it? you came here to ""share your good news"" how very kleeneze, you seem to forget that there are plenty here who can see right through you. You forget too and I know the reason why that people here who have never so much as put a book out telling other they are failures is pretty rude , of course as you do their MLM's too you won't call them out on it but instead go for this line of "" sharing good news"".

All non positive discussion is stamped on by kleeneze, at meetings , at conferences and online. It's all basically mind control , even here people are spouting the latest *personal development* nonsense they've read in some book sold to them by their uplines. They just can't see it, but others can and you and them can't stand it.

As has been said to others, people like me gain nothing by discussing kleeneze here, WHAT do you hope to gain by talking it up?

Jeanetteathome

JennyJewell wrote: »

I was just having a look at the original post - someone was only inquiring and all hell broke loose!
I hope the original poster and others also inquiring in the beginning found what they were looking for.

Newsflash

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Lots of people really don't like Kleeneze.

Lifes like that sometimes, get over it.

PatrickD

Jeanetteathome wrote: »

**Mind his own business**???

I could say the same to you, telling me and others here were are failures and that we have ourselves to blame etc.

You haven't even done kleeneze , you seem to think you can comment when you haven't even done it.

I wouldn't dream of going to the Avon thread on the basis I have delivered catalogues, if I wanted to ask about a product I might but to do as you do , hectoring people and having a go.

Why are you *so* interested anyway? is it because your friends from your MLM do this so in a quid pro quo you back them then they back you? How very telling as to why people should avoid these companies and their business model , it makes people sly , untruthful and prepared to do and say anything to get ahead.

As others here have said, we gain nothing by being here, what do you gain?

Maybe you can point me to the rule that states ''only people with experience of Kleeneze as a distributor may post on this thread''.
Thanks

Pat

Jeanetteathome

CharlieBilly wrote: »

Recruitment they like to get others to do there work for them so they reap the rewards

Indeed if just one person shows and interest they'd be there like a shot, they have training sessions run by uplines on how to use forums and do all sorts of trickery to draw people in.

Jeanetteathome

PatrickD wrote: »

Maybe you can point me to the rule that states ''only people with experience of Kleeneze as a distributor may post on this thread''.
Thanks

Pat

you can post where ever you like but if you defend something to the hilt that you by your own admission you have never done then it;s quite in order for others to pull you up on it.

It's very strange behaviour really , and can only be described as suspicious. Either that or you are just trolling for attention, is that it?

If you want someone to talk to then there are loads of chatty threads that run all day , some are very good. You should try them .

PatrickD

Jeanetteathome wrote: »

you can post where ever you like but if you defend something to the hilt that you by your own admission you have never done then it;s quite in order for others to pull you up on it.

It's very strange behaviour really , and can only be described as suspicious. Either that or you are just trolling for attention, is that it?

If you want someone to talk to then there are loads of chatty threads that run all day , some are very good. You should try them .

Oh but I have done it. I also have lots of experience with the business system. I also have been doing lots of research both offline and online into Kleeneze and Betterware. The truth is, you and a few others don't like anyone who comes on here with a different opinion to you. Shame.

Pat

Jeanetteathome

PatrickD wrote: »

What makes YOU an expert on Kleeneze?

Pat

Like this reply to Morethan , his work took him to the door of gold by retail alone , and astonishing feat . Of course you don't know what that is like or the difficulties faced as you've never done these catalogues.

It's truly unbelievable that you call into question his views on kleeneze given the work he has done , compared with the fact you haven't done it.

Really, it's too much .

Jeanetteathome

PatrickD wrote: »

Oh but I have done it. I also have lots of experience with the business system. I also have been doing lots of research both offline and online into Kleeneze and Betterware. The truth is, you and a few others don't like anyone who comes on here with a different opinion to you. Shame.

Pat

But you haven't done though have you, ** research** is not the same as actually doing it.

You've looked into it and thats it. It's utterly ridiculous that you should profess a knowledge of doing kleeneze catalogues when you haven't.

You are trolling really aren't you. You are deliberately disrupting the discussion for your own ends or the ends of someone else and you should stop.

PatrickD

Jeanetteathome wrote: »

Like this reply to Morethan , his work took him to the door of gold by retail alone , and astonishing feat . Of course you don't know what that is like or the difficulties faced as you've never done these catalogues.

It's truly unbelievable that you call into question his views on kleeneze given the work he has done , compared with the fact you haven't done it.

Really, it's too much .

Oh but I have done it, not only putting out Kleeneze catalogues, but also catalogues of other companies. I never liked it, and choose to do MLM a different way, but I've done it. Tsk tsk...facts first before posting.

Pat