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Kleeneeze or Betterware?

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  • PatrickD
    PatrickD Posts: 209 Forumite
    bloss0m wrote: »
    Yea you but its rightly earned

    Many of us dont like to see others taken in

    PS if you dont like the negativity then you can always leave I shall not miss you. I have nothing to gain

    You confuse being unfriendly with criticism.

    Its rightfully earned if you get to the top in MLM, be it Kleeneze or whoever. Do you realise how hard it is to get to the top in MLM?

    Pat
  • savemoney
    savemoney Posts: 18,125 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts
    Maybe you dont but some do

    from there web page

    "Kleeneze have an amazing car incentives programme and the cars they have already given away include Mini Coopers, BMW 3 & 5 Series and Porsche Boxsters, and the top distributor can get their hands on a Ferrari 360. These are given away for distributors to KEEP! as incentives to build your business."


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    Kleeneze is offering its distributors a fantastic new incentive – the chance to qualify for a MINI. Kleeneze distributors who achieve and maintain a level of significant business growth will receive a brand new car.




    PatrickD wrote: »
    Who lies? I don't. People have a choice to lie or be truthful in all walks of life, including MLM.

    Pat
  • PatrickD
    PatrickD Posts: 209 Forumite
    savemoney wrote: »
    Maybe you dont but some do

    from there web page

    "Kleeneze have an amazing car incentives programme and the cars they have already given away include Mini Coopers, BMW 3 & 5 Series and Porsche Boxsters, and the top distributor can get their hands on a Ferrari 360. These are given away for distributors to KEEP! as incentives to build your business."


    mini.jpg


    Kleeneze is offering its distributors a fantastic new incentive – the chance to qualify for a MINI. Kleeneze distributors who achieve and maintain a level of significant business growth will receive a brand new car.


    Which part of their incentive is a lie?

    Pat
  • Antispam
    Antispam Posts: 6,636 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Ruth cant have link in your signature. I can see your busy today wonder what your motive is other than recruit. The link will be removed if you dont remove it yourself :)
  • Hi, just wondering if anyone has had experience of either of these companies and would recommend?? what percentage you get? if you have to buy books etc?
    Thanks

    Done both, betterware was the clear winner.

    I was a volume distributor, didnt recuit much other than for betterware as a co-ordinator. A wet day with kleeneze can wipe out your entire weeks profit shelling out replacing all those wet catalogues.

    I made a promise to myself to quit kleeneze as soon as the cost of 50 catalogues reached £15.

    Damn! BIG mistake, I should have quit much sooner!
  • Peter_Pan
    Peter_Pan Posts: 791 Forumite
    Well thats a nice twist on what really went on isn't it? you came here to ""share your good news"" how very kleeneze, you seem to forget that there are plenty here who can see right through you. You forget too and I know the reason why that people here who have never so much as put a book out telling other they are failures is pretty rude , of course as you do their MLM's too you won't call them out on it but instead go for this line of "" sharing good news"". But you seem very happy at sharing your bad news about it not working for you!!

    All non positive discussion is stamped on by kleeneze, at meetings , at conferences and online. It's all basically mind control , even here people are spouting the latest *personal development* nonsense they've read in some book sold to them by their uplines. They just can't see it, but others can and you and them can't stand it. It is individual choice whether you choose to start or continue your personal development NOT somethig you are made to do but choose to do and as i have said in another post its not just for MLM its beneficial in all areas of life. Did you read any PD books while you were in Kleeneze? if you did what did you think of them?

    As has been said to others, people like me gain nothing by discussing kleeneze here, WHAT do you hope to gain by talking it up?
    Some of us actually want to help people in this difficult economic climate and i believe all options for people should be made accessible so that people can decide whats right for them. MLM is one of those options whichever Company and theres always two sides to everything, you seen happy enough to put your side across so its fair for the other side to be shared as well for a balanced view.

    Debbie
    We love what we are doing and we love why we're doing it!!
  • Peter_Pan
    Peter_Pan Posts: 791 Forumite
    Newsflash
    Lots of people really don't like Kleeneze.

    Lifes like that sometimes, get over it.

    Those that are making Kleeneze work for them can't come on here as they would get accused of trying to recruit so a bit one sided really isn't it.

    Debbie
    We love what we are doing and we love why we're doing it!!
  • Peter_Pan
    Peter_Pan Posts: 791 Forumite
    savemoney wrote: »
    . I lost count the amount of new people delivering this catalogue in my area because they get fed up of the lies on how much they can make.

    .

    I think this is the problem, its people being signed up with false expectations, it doesn't mean that MLM is a bad model, it points to that some sponsors are not being taught the skills needed to be good sponsors/mentors or perhaps some people just recruit without giving all the facts - it doesn't mean everyone is the same does it?

    Debbie
    We love what we are doing and we love why we're doing it!!
  • niftyone
    niftyone Posts: 295 Forumite
    Why are the Wikaniko Brigade spending so much time on this thread hoping to pick up some recruits i guess.
  • Peter_Pan
    Peter_Pan Posts: 791 Forumite
    niftyone wrote: »
    Why are the Wikaniko Brigade spending so much time on this thread hoping to pick up some recruits i guess.

    Yawn!!! just as i was just thinking what a constructive and informative discussion about MLM because that is essentially what Kleeneze vs Betterware is. What ever happened to having an open mind or to not judge people before you know the facts. The same people who are anti MLM seem to be anti Personal Development even when most of the successful Businessmen and sports people and more will tell you how important personal development is......................does that say something?

    Debbie
    We love what we are doing and we love why we're doing it!!
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