Kleeneeze or Betterware?

PatrickD

Morethanconcerned wrote: »

You really are a one aren't you ?

lets ask again .

How much time did you spend doing KLEENEZE .

Not MLM - KLEENEZE

My answer...mind your own business.

My question.... is there a rule stating that you need experience as a Kleeneze distributor before you can post on this thread? If so, please link to it.

Pat

Morethanconcerned

PatrickD wrote: »

My answer...mind your own business.

My question.... is there a rule stating that you need experience as a Kleeneze distributor before you can post on this thread? If so, please link to it.

Pat

It was a week wasn't it?

You know nothing about kleeneze day to day business - stop blabbering about MLM , as has been said no one joins Kleeneze to do MLM they do it to do the catalogues and earn money - the MLM is secondary., You know nothing about how they work , you know nothing about the meeting and conferences because you HAVE NEVER DONE IT.

so you DON'T get to tell people they are failures or lecture people OK?

Peter_Pan

Morethanconcerned wrote: »

Not a chance - selling plastic tat you can get cheaper in a pound shop isn't my idea of a good living - even less so is deliberately ripping folk off with a scam product!

If you had taken the time to look at my posts you'd have seen that after three years I had a huge customer base, but thats bot the issue, they spent less and less as they grew tired of the same old tat, new customers spent less. And lots went on trying to con others into joining for that was what it was which is why I ended up just retailing.

you certainly have taken on hook line & sinker the *personal development * books they must have sold you. The endless guffing about personal skills etc.

So transparent, sad really in many respects.

It was actually my attempt at a light hearted comment.

I do agree about some of the products which you will see was one of the reasons we stopped after 2 years, it failed to tick all our boxes. If the products bought were consumables which they really liked then your sales wouldn't have dropped once people had bought all the plastic bits.

Personal development has actually impacted on all areas of my life over the last 8 years and i am very grateful for being introduced to the first book that started my journey and would recommend the journey to everyone whether in MLM or not.

Why wouldn't anyone want to continual improve and understand themselves better? Why people see it as just part of MLM i don't know, lots of people from all different walks of life carry on with personal development throughout their life?

Debbie

PatrickD

Morethanconcerned wrote: »

It was a week wasn't it?

You know nothing about kleeneze day to day business - stop blabbering about MLM , as has been said no one joins Kleeneze to do MLM they do it to do the catalogues and earn money - the MLM is secondary., You know nothing about how they work , you know nothing about the meeting and conferences because you HAVE NEVER DONE IT.

so you DON'T get to tell people they are failures or lecture people OK?

Can you point me to the forum rule that states that someone has to have experience as a distributor to post here? Thanks

Pat

PatrickD

With all the doom and gloom around on this thread, I found these:

Andy Boswell "130 catalogues this week - £540 in orders... One single order for £87! Shame there's no money around in January!! ;-) "

Debbie Gee "164 #Kleeneze catalogues just over £600 in orders. Not a bad start to January "

Pat

Antispam

Wow that proves a lot. I am so enlightened, why didn't I get into this. I must sign up now and make loads of money

I dare say with your selective vision is so easy to put a spin on things to suit your own agenda

PatrickD wrote: »

With all the doom and gloom around on this thread, I found these:



Pat

PatrickD

Antispam wrote: »

Wow that proves a lot. I am so enlightened, why didn't I get into this. I must sign up now and make loads of money

I dare say with your selective vision is so easy to put a spin on things to suit your own agenda

Likewise, I'm sure you could too with your selective vision.

Pat

Antispam

I am not the one boasting how good it is. I have nothing to gain

I am not the one trying to justify the MLM model to anyone gullible that will listen. Unfortunately the same can not be said about yourself, if you dont deliver catalogues I assume you spend most of your time trying to recruit.

PatrickD wrote: »

Likewise, I'm sure you could too with your selective vision.

Pat

JennyJewell

Hi peeps
Hi Pat and Deb
People are accusing Patrick of being rude to people on here - well I had a massive attacking from some of you on here so much so that people who haven't even commented on this thread personally pm'd me to advise me to ignore the rude remarks that were aimed at me!
I'm also guessing Pat hasn't changed because he is very happy in working with the company that he is?
There are plenty of negative comments being made about Wikaniko by people who have never tried it and it seems to be ok - yet comments made by Patrick and Debbie about MLM in general isn't?
Basically it seems to be that negative remarks that are made are ok and anything that is said in a positive light is frowned upon - how strange?
I originally came on here because I saw a thread that mentioned Kleeneze and wanted to share my good news - I didn't realise at the time it was some sort of hate page! Hence the reason I haven't visited for a while - I would rather chat to positive people, it doesn't have to be about business, just life in general.
Good luck all - life is for living and flys by far too quickly!
Jen

JennyJewell

I was just having a look at the original post - someone was only inquiring and all hell broke loose!
I hope the original poster and others also inquiring in the beginning found what they were looking for.