Kleeneeze or Betterware?

BargainGalore

Or brain washed I hear your quite good at that

"knowing that my customers and downline are very happy with the products they are using"

PatrickD wrote: »

I agree. Its either something that can be learnt or improved upon or it plainly just isn't for someone. MLM and particularly self employment isn't for everyone. Nothing wrong at all with the MLM concept as used by Kleeneze and other companies. This is proven by people who are successful with it. They have learnt and done whatever is necessary to be successful and more importantly, are suited to self employment. Others haven't.

Pat

PatrickD

BargainGalore wrote: »

Or brain washed I hear your quite good at that

"knowing that my customers and downline are very happy with the products they are using"

Do you accuse everyone you don't agree with as being brainwashed?

Pat

BargainGalore

No I dont.

PatrickD wrote: »

Do you accuse everyone you don't agree with as being brainwashed?

Pat

PatrickD

BargainGalore wrote: »

No I dont.

Well, you're calling me brainwashed and you've never even met me. Just like you're stating that all our 850 products are crap even though you've never tried any of them. You're not very good at this are you?

Pat

Morethanconcerned

Peter_Pan wrote: »

Its just much easier to blame someone else or something else rather than facing up to the fact that perhaps its something within ourselves we need to work on that failed us. So many people are against Kleeneze and any MLM scheme but can they really truly say they are so perfect that it can't be something they need to learn/improve that was the actual reason?

Tin hat on and ducking for cover

Debbie

Why duck for cover unless you are being deliberately provocative , if Yousuf had a genuine point to make you'd stand by it.

Insulting people that have been taken for a ride by Kleeneze by blaming them or making out they are somehow deficient is nothing more than insulting.

Unlike many I have actually done kleeneze for over three years and know all the tricks that they get up to, I followed the plan and did all that was asked and more. Fortunately for me my dream job appeared and I was off like a shot - 7 day a week working for peanuts - no thanks.

Of course as you and a few here are up to their necks in MLM and the usual cult like flim flam that go with it I quote realise that you cannot see anyone else point of view.

But in any case you need not worry as we are on about Kleeneze here and I have asked an important question elsewhere about the company you go on about and I want answers. Frankly I'd rather do kleeneze than sell snake oil - now thats FACT.

Morethanconcerned

BargainGalore wrote: »

Or brain washed I hear your quite good at that

"knowing that my customers and downline are very happy with the products they are using"

Indeed - one born every minute more like, they spout the *eco* mantra and people fall in line . I have to admit it is canny , plugging into the fact that some in society with money will pay much more if they think they are assuaging their *eco* conscience.

A magnet tied to the fuel line - *eco fuel saver*

One born every minute

Morethanconcerned

PatrickD wrote: »

I agree. Its either something that can be learnt or improved upon or it plainly just isn't for someone. MLM and particularly self employment isn't for everyone. Nothing wrong at all with the MLM concept as used by Kleeneze and other companies. This is proven by people who are successful with it. They have learnt and done whatever is necessary to be successful and more importantly, are suited to self employment. Others haven't.

Pat

Come back when you *actually* done kleeneze

why **are** you so keen to defend it anyway?

Morethanconcerned

Peter_Pan wrote: »

Okay guys and gals keep picking on the same few products that in your opinion are "quackery", there are over 850 products and growing, there are testimonials from people (distributors and customers) that say the products work and these people have done a before and after assessment. I can't say more than that as i haven't tried the product myself although with diesel prices on the increase its something we may consider ourselves and if we do will keep you all informed of the results.

If you have looked into Wikaniko yourselves you would see it reaches far deeper than just products to help the Planet, its the chemicals in everyday products and the cocktail we put on ourselves which concerns me and which people seem totally oblivious to, add that to the pesticides etc and growth hormones in the food we eat :eek:

Wikaniko is about one step at a time to living a more harmonious and sustainable lifestyle with the environment and i personally would add living together more harmoniously with each other as well. We have a Wikankook it section about feeding a family on a budget, organic growing newsletter about growing your own organic food as well as oodles of other resources to help everyone and guess what you don't have to be a distributor to gain access to them.

Debbie

Blah blah - snake oil

CharlieBilly

Recruitment they like to get others to do there work for them so they reap the rewards

Morethanconcerned wrote: »

Come back when you *actually* done kleeneze

why **are** you so keen to defend it anyway?

Morethanconcerned

PatrickD wrote: »

So you're an expert at failing at Kleeneze (by that I mean that you didnt reach your goals or you'd be doing it now). Big deal.

Pat

YOU'VE NEVER EVEN DONE IT

and I didn't fail - OK

Now be so kind as to explain why you spend SO much time here when you have ZERO , thats ZILCH , experience of Kleeneze?

Or is it that MLM for you is so wonderful - laughable as you say you've done it for 20ys - 20 yrs! why aren't you a millionaire then? why change ?

Some people are gullible - you fit the bill. Now a question awaits you on the wikiano thread , you'd be better of spending time there defending that *eco* company ( laugh)