Kleeneeze or Betterware?

Peter_Pan

Time to get back to Kleeneze vs Betterware i think, just because some of us have experience in Kleeneze and are now doing Wikaniko doesn't mean it has to keep being brought up!!! This is really a bout MLM vs non MLM isn't it? Betterware - non MLM and Kleeneze MLM !!! The answer is it depends on what the person looking wants from it, if its more of a job with a "boss" who tells you an area, when to put out and you can forget about it between brochure drops etc then Betterware wins, if its the chance of learning to teach. mentor and build your own team for a higher income as well as earning from retailing wherever you want and you don't mind competition with other agents then Kleeneze wins.

Debbie

PatrickD

bloss0m wrote: »

Patrick seems to like spending his time on here yet has a go at others when they do 1136

I dont know if he is deluding himself or trying to delude others into this failed scheme. He certainly spend most of his time on mse on this thread, it begs question why?

Most of my time? Liar. I spend a few minutes a day, a few times a week at most. Check it out.

Pat

PatrickD

Morethanconcerned wrote: »

Over three years doing Kleeneze 7 days a week fully self employed on it. Catalogues and recruiting.

Your experience of Kleeneze is a week - so a big fat ZERO then

So you're an expert at failing at Kleeneze (by that I mean that you didnt reach your goals or you'd be doing it now). Big deal.

Pat

NeverInDebt

Patrick I do hope its you that delivers catalogues to my house I would get great delight binning them

PatrickD

NeverInDebt wrote: »

Patrick I do hope its you that delivers catalogues to my house I would get great delight binning them

Your know expert as I see you and others who deliver this crap as vultures preying on vulnerable people how you sleep at night is beyond me

I dont deliver catalogues so it wont ever happen, but I sleep very well at night knowing that my customers and downline are very happy with the products they are using.

Pat

Peter_Pan

I find it a real shame that so many people don't like the word "failure" or "failing" - i used to be exactly the same and get so defensive but actually by failing at something you learn so much more and i now welcome failing and making lots of mistakes because i know i will take something very important from each one and be stronger and wiser afterwards. Who wants a "perfect" life honestly - i want to experience all life has to offer and that means making mistakes and failing myself but as long as i get back up again its not really a failure or a mistake its a lesson which i either learn from or not...........my choice

Debbie

Peter_Pan

NeverInDebt wrote: »

Patrick I do hope its you that delivers catalogues to my house I would get great delight binning them

Hope its in the recycling bin Neverindebt

Debbie

PatrickD

Peter_Pan wrote: »

I find it a real shame that so many people don't like the word "failure" or "failing" - i used to be exactly the same and get so defensive but actually by failing at something you learn so much more and i now welcome failing and making lots of mistakes because i know i will take something very important from each one and be stronger and wiser afterwards. Who wants a "perfect" life honestly - i want to experience all life has to offer and that means making mistakes and failing myself but as long as i get back up again its not really a failure or a mistake its a lesson which i either learn from or not...........my choice

Debbie

So true. Those that haven't failed haven't tried anything. I've failed many times and am not ashamed of any of it.

Pat

Peter_Pan

Its just much easier to blame someone else or something else rather than facing up to the fact that perhaps its something within ourselves we need to work on that failed us. So many people are against Kleeneze and any MLM scheme but can they really truly say they are so perfect that it can't be something they need to learn/improve that was the actual reason?

Tin hat on and ducking for cover

Debbie

PatrickD

Peter_Pan wrote: »

Its just much easier to blame someone else or something else rather than facing up to the fact that perhaps its something within ourselves we need to work on that failed us. So many people are against Kleeneze and any MLM scheme but can they really truly say they are so perfect that it can't be something they need to learn/improve that was the actual reason?

Tin hat on and ducking for cover

Debbie

I agree. Its either something that can be learnt or improved upon or it plainly just isn't for someone. MLM and particularly self employment isn't for everyone. Nothing wrong at all with the MLM concept as used by Kleeneze and other companies. This is proven by people who are successful with it. They have learnt and done whatever is necessary to be successful and more importantly, are suited to self employment. Others haven't.

Pat