Kleeneeze or Betterware?

Morethanconcerned

JennyJewell wrote: »

I stopped Kleeneze before to concentrate on my chosen career - I have restarted because I need the money. I felt I no longer had the time to concentrate on Kleeneze the first time around, when I started working with children but it's surprising the time you can find when you need to. My children were also younger before whereas now I have one teenager and one about to become an adult himself - they are more or less living their own lives spending time with their friends.
I get great orders because I am a likeable person - my customers like the products and they like me. They know they can trust me - if something was ever faulty they know I will sort it out, no questions asked. I am known around my village for being genuine and help people with simple things such as picking up shopping for my elderly neighbours and that was in times between Kleeneze and as I do now - that is nothing to do with what company I am working with, that is just my personality and apologies if that makes you feel a bit sickly but that is the person I am. I have worked hard with the few catalogues I had and have gained a lot of free ones as reward for my sales which have helped me gain more orders.
I have done both blanket dropping and knocking and presenting and the latter works best for me and of course you build a better rapport - most people build a better rapport when they see a person face to face than over the phone in anything they do.
Work, family life and Kleeneze - I have no time to do anything else, nor do I want or need to now, (obviously apart from teacher training if I can find a way).
There are no deflections - I have simply told the truth of my experience so far.
As for houses I am very fortunate to have access to a lot of houses around me where I know a lot of people - I have also met some nice people recently who have become new customers to me. I do think it's polite to introduce myself - if someone doesn't want a catalogue at least I can say happy xmas and that person has respected the fact that I asked first.
Hope that clears a couple of things up although I feel that someone will still find something to pick at.
I have cleaning to do now and then Xmas shopping to do tomorrow -yay
Happy Xmas all
Jen

Nobody is *picking* at you - you are the one who keeps writing this stuff and presenting it here. You haven't answered why you said you'd been at it 2 weeks and had got free books when that would take a few months.

You are certainly inferring that you get orders because and I quote **I get great orders because I am a likeable person** so it isn't the books now but because you are so nice? So horrible people need not apply? how utterly bizarre. They buy stuff because they like you? they didn't buy from me because they didn't like me? Not because I sold them something for £15 that broke first use and they found was£4.99 in the bargain shop - that didn't come into it then? I should have worn a clown suit had I but known.

You don't make me sickly because of the unction dripping from the unnecessary purple font and smilies but from the classic Kleeneze recruitment distortion that you are displaying, it's false and over done, it may fool newbies and those upto their necks in snakeoil MLMs but not a seasoned veteran like me. Sorry but there it is. Stick to the kleneze discussions and leave the personal stuff out , that would be best.

Morethanconcerned

*Chattie* wrote: »

Funny how you say that about every company you have sold for and there have been many but its nice to see you are back with Kleeneze who were off your good company list for quite a while.

The thing is with these kind of companies , the various MLMs, party plans , catalogues etc they attract the same sort of people , well meaning but desperate , Always looking for something but never finding it , always sure that this or that will give them what illusionary thing it is they are looking for.

I've seen this in the flesh , a kleeneze guy on our wider team was always posing this or that other MLM , healthcare stuff, utility warehouse, debt resolving, this or that wacky health product or stuff to put in the petrol tank.

Being polite I gave him the time of day and to this day if I see him about he'll try to push something on me. It's rather sad really , he's no further forward than years ago. I just know he'll turn up on the doorstep over xmas, I'll sit with a sherry and mince pie while he tries to sell us snake oil.

JennyJewell

Keeping in black for you - I only type in purple because I like the colour and post in other forums in the same colour that are nothing to do with Kleeneze or any other company such as flylady etc and no I don't mention companies there, flylady is a house cleaning thread.

I have been involved in too many companies to mention and yes looking for that right thing and I've had good experiences with most if not all of them, some better than others.

I've just checked when I actually started back with Kleeneze and it's been almost 3 weeks - my first order went in on the 5th December. I've now had 135 books for free in total, I'm not lying - would you like me to take a photo and put it on here? I've literally just delivered books to customers and collected them back in - I haven't done anything special, I've just been myself and that's it. I'm not saying that people ONLY buy from me because of my personality, obviously they like the products but I personally wouldn't buy from someone who is rude or grumpy with people. I'm not suggesting you were like that with your customers Morethanconcerned - I don't know you so I wouldn't know. I don't know how it's gone so well for me but it has - I don't think I should be made to feel bad about it.
Anyway I've got things to do and I genuinely do wish you all a happy xmas. Please don't think I am trying to deceive anyone - obviously you don't know me but I'm really not like that.
Jen

PatrickD

Morethanconcerned wrote: »

Nobody is *picking* at you - you are the one who keeps writing this stuff and presenting it here. You haven't answered why you said you'd been at it 2 weeks and had got free books when that would take a few months.

You are certainly inferring that you get orders because and I quote **I get great orders because I am a likeable person** so it isn't the books now but because you are so nice? So horrible people need not apply? how utterly bizarre. They buy stuff because they like you? they didn't buy from me because they didn't like me? Not because I sold them something for £15 that broke first use and they found was£4.99 in the bargain shop - that didn't come into it then? I should have worn a clown suit had I but known.

You don't make me sickly because of the unction dripping from the unnecessary purple font and smilies but from the classic Kleeneze recruitment distortion that you are displaying, it's false and over done, it may fool newbies and those upto their necks in snakeoil MLMs but not a seasoned veteran like me. Sorry but there it is. Stick to the kleneze discussions and leave the personal stuff out , that would be best.

Its very fair to say that people buy from nice people. Would ''horrible'' people do well in face to face, person to person selling? Of course they wouldn't. Jenny appears from her posts to be very nice so her success doesn't surprise me in the least, unlike a few others on here. Their lack of success could be something to do with that. As they say, ''its nice to be nice''.

Pat

OldGreyFox

JennyJewell wrote: »

I have been involved in too many companies to mention

Thats why some people probaly take what you say with a Pinch Of Salt Jenny.

fashionlover10

Morethanconcerned wrote: »

Nobody is *picking* at you - you are the one who keeps writing this stuff and presenting it here. You haven't answered why you said you'd been at it 2 weeks and had got free books when that would take a few months.

You are certainly inferring that you get orders because and I quote **I get great orders because I am a likeable person** so it isn't the books now but because you are so nice? So horrible people need not apply? how utterly bizarre. They buy stuff because they like you? they didn't buy from me because they didn't like me? Not because I sold them something for £15 that broke first use and they found was£4.99 in the bargain shop - that didn't come into it then? I should have worn a clown suit had I but known.

You don't make me sickly because of the unction dripping from the unnecessary purple font and smilies but from the classic Kleeneze recruitment distortion that you are displaying, it's false and over done, it may fool newbies and those upto their necks in snakeoil MLMs but not a seasoned veteran like me. Sorry but there it is. Stick to the kleneze discussions and leave the personal stuff out , that would be best.

The phrase 'If you can't say anything nice.......' (I'm sure everyone can fill in the rest!) definitely comes to mind right now.
Just saying

JennyJewell

That's fair enough OldGreyFox
Happy Xmas

OldGreyFox wrote: »

Thats why some people probaly take what you say with a Pinch Of Salt Jenny.

Morethanconcerned

PatrickD wrote: »

Its very fair to say that people buy from nice people. Would ''horrible'' people do well in face to face, person to person selling? Of course they wouldn't. Jenny appears from her posts to be very nice so her success doesn't surprise me in the least, unlike a few others on here. Their lack of success could be something to do with that. As they say, ''its nice to be nice''.

Pat

Where to start with such a ridiculous post - firstly , given your *actual* experience of Kleeneze by your own admission runs to a couple of weeks then how you feel in any way qualified to make such bizarre statements is beyond me.

I could do a £1000 of orders a week easy some weeks - so using your childish analogy I must be a *nice* person, but the delightful young couple I recruited that only got £300 from 4 weeks of dropping 200 books must have been right nazis then.

You are so desperate to ingratiate yourself with other posters , you haven't even done kleeneze properly - why are you even on this thread other than to hope someone PM's you to ask about Wikinaino.

Even jennyjewell herself admits to another poster that they lack credibility because they've done so many of this daft get rich schemes. The daft colour schemes and smilies coupled with endless dreary personal information may ring all your bells, a fellow traveller indeed , but to me it's just fake and transparent.

Now I'm here to make sure the record is straight - not fairy stories designed to get people hooked.

Morethanconcerned

fashionlover10 wrote: »

The phrase 'If you can't say anything nice.......' (I'm sure everyone can fill in the rest!) definitely comes to mind right now.
Just saying

Well thats lovely and contributes utter zilch to the actual business in hand.

Morethanconcerned

Take a look at this latest pile of steaming stuff from one of Kleenezes top senior execs:-

From his facebook site - ***SteveAndDebbiesWorkFromHomeTips***

Aren't some people amazing? Just sponsored a guy today who is totally blind - and he's joined with 250 Kleeneze catalogues and he will be distributing them personally. The way people deal with huge challenges like this never cease to amaze (& inspire) me.


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Unbelievably a bloke there is questioning why he has signed up this bloke and just how he proposes to manage to do this. He has pointed out that it will be a sighted person doing all the work as it really can't be done by someone without sight. In a post without any irony at all in the slightest he posted later - **Sure he will have some help but ironically best asset seems to be his "vision". ***


You couldn't make this stuff up

This is the kind of utter rubbish that kleeneze agents come up with - they are wetting themselves to get his *story* so they can ram it down new peoples throats to tell them how easy it is. They need locking up .