Kleeneeze or Betterware?

Jeanetteathome

JennyJewell wrote: »

Hello
Please don't start shouting at me for putting anything positive on here - I am not trying to recruit, just pleased and giving peeps an update and a look on the other side of the coin
I have now been back in Kleeneze for just over two weeks and have brought in over £800 sales in that time I have worked hard but it's been worth it and much appreciated by my family Between two thirds- three quarters of those sales have been non xmas or consumable products and my customers are very happy to see my return
Suffice to say I am a very happy woman
Good luck to all in your ventures,
Jenny

Well it is the run up to Xmas , try those same houses for about 3 more drops and that £800 of orders - worth about £240 in *actual* money , (minus the cost of actually doing it , books bags petrol startup fees , internet fees, eze reach etc etc) and those orders will drop the less than £100 , same amount of time to put them all out and traipse round to get them in , same amount of dripping wet bags to wade through sorting them out.

So they'll say go to a new area and so the whole thing keeps going round and round and the customer base gets largers as it needs to to counteract the fact that people buy once or twice then may never buy again or just once or twice a year.

Good luck indeed but ultimately the outcome is the same , you fork out your own time and money to provide kleeneze with a discounted delivery service till the next mug, sorry , new distributor comes along.

Morethanconcerned

Good point well made jeanete - take a look at **SteveAndDebbiesWorkFromHomeTips** on face book - it's kicking off somewhat with a bloke calling into question what they are saying. I can't go there they booted me off on the vic brown thread.

There is some UTTER nonsense there though - would you rather have a million pound in your hand or the millionaire mindset? guess which one they chose!

Then he is crowing about how he has recruited a blind man - how the hell is he supposed to do this? that distributor should be ashamed.

Morethanconcerned

wongawonga wrote: »

Kleeneze are apparently threatenening to terminate senior peoples joint distributorship,s agreement,s if one of the partners wishes to resign to join another opportunity eg Avon. How restrictive is that.

See : http://www.squidoo.com/why-kleeneze-can-make-you-cry

Looks like they dont what there people to see how much better things might be elsewhere.

It's really going all a bit belly up isn't it? people being booted out here and there - so much for **running your own business**

JennyJewell

Hi Jeanette
As I have stated before I used to be a Kleeneze distributor 7 years ago and know the hard work it can entail. This time round however my 110 catalogues I have received from the company have all been free and also no start-up cost My deliveries have also been free so I have had no costs at all other than my own time (I don't drive so it's all been using my legs,lol - which I have seen as free exercise). I don't care about the time it has taken - indeed I work full time as a Special Support Assistant so I have been coming in from work, grabbing a bite to eat and off out I go! It's the money to give our family a better Xmas that has been important to me and it has made a big difference, thank goodness
I did Kleeneze for 5 years last time at a time when I needed it and know how to build up my customer base - I have a received a lovely welcome back from them and all of them are pleased to see me again which was a really nice feeling I have also met some lovely people who I didn't know before who are now happily buying from me and have asked me to make sure I drop off catalogues to them in the new year
I understand where you are coming from - I'll see how it goes in the new year As I said in my earlier post most of those orders were non Xmas items
Best wishes,
Jen

Jeanetteathome wrote: »

Well it is the run up to Xmas , try those same houses for about 3 more drops and that £800 of orders - worth about £240 in *actual* money , (minus the cost of actually doing it , books bags petrol startup fees , internet fees, eze reach etc etc) and those orders will drop the less than £100 , same amount of time to put them all out and traipse round to get them in , same amount of dripping wet bags to wade through sorting them out.

So they'll say go to a new area and so the whole thing keeps going round and round and the customer base gets largers as it needs to to counteract the fact that people buy once or twice then may never buy again or just once or twice a year.

Good luck indeed but ultimately the outcome is the same , you fork out your own time and money to provide kleeneze with a discounted delivery service till the next mug, sorry , new distributor comes along.

PatrickD

Very well done Jenny. The best way is not to listen to the negative people and just get out there and do it, just as you obviously are.
Best of luck to you and a Happy Xmas!

Pat

JennyJewell

Thank you very much Pat
Have a fantastic Xmas yourself

Jen x

PatrickD wrote: »

Very well done Jenny. The best way is not to listen to the negative people and just get out there and do it, just as you obviously are.
Best of luck to you and a Happy Xmas!

Pat

Morethanconcerned

PatrickD wrote: »

Very well done Jenny. The best way is not to listen to the negative people and just get out there and do it, just as you obviously are.
Best of luck to you and a Happy Xmas!

Pat

The thing is when people read stuff like that they think OH Kleeneze is OK but they need to take stories like that with a HUGE sack of salt. The idea it's free when in fact it's some short time special offer, or that *anyone* can do it on foot which is patently WRONG. The amount of hard up people suckered in by this - these kind of stories are all over facebook pages and they are for people to read and join kleeneze.

Put it this way - 200 books is over three full trollies worth , thats 200 unique addresses, then you'll need another 200 the next week and another the week after , by then you are miles from home. So lets stop this nonesense now and protect those who are desperate at the moment.

Now I know you'll come back with what you do with wikiano and selling to this heap of people just dying to pay over the odds for stuff who live right on your doorstep but kleeneze doesn't work like this at all. I know this business and I know the methods used to promote it.

Morethanconcerned

JennyJewell wrote: »

Hi Jeanette
As I have stated before I used to be a Kleeneze distributor 7 years ago and know the hard work it can entail. This time round however my 110 catalogues I have received from the company have all been free and also no start-up cost My deliveries have also been free so I have had no costs at all other than my own time (I don't drive so it's all been using my legs,lol - which I have seen as free exercise). I don't care about the time it has taken - indeed I work full time as a Special Support Assistant so I have been coming in from work, grabbing a bite to eat and off out I go! It's the money to give our family a better Xmas that has been important to me and it has made a big difference, thank goodness
I did Kleeneze for 5 years last time at a time when I needed it and know how to build up my customer base - I have a received a lovely welcome back from them and all of them are pleased to see me again which was a really nice feeling I have also met some lovely people who I didn't know before who are now happily buying from me and have asked me to make sure I drop off catalogues to them in the new year
I understand where you are coming from - I'll see how it goes in the new year As I said in my earlier post most of those orders were non Xmas items
Best wishes,
Jen

So you did it for 5 yrs then gave up? given it's supposedly a 3 -5 yr plan and supposedly if you just work at it for that length of time you'll make a fortune it can't work very well can it?

What will you do in 6 months time when - as people DON'T order every time regardless of the guff put about - you need more and more customers just to stand still you'll be miles from home. Just how much spare time do you *actually* have? Not much good if you need to walk 30 mins to an area with just 75 books in a trolley is it?

Plus you'd be better not trying to make out it was free to join - it isn't is it? after a few months all the fre stuff stops and then you'll need £250 in orders just to get free delivery.

The thing is about all this , when you get past the smilies and cloying is the fine detail, it's ALL in the detail.

Morethanconcerned

wongawonga wrote: »

Kleeneze are apparently threatenening to terminate senior peoples joint distributorship,s agreement,s if one of the partners wishes to resign to join another opportunity eg Avon. How restrictive is that.

See : http://www.squidoo.com/why-kleeneze-can-make-you-cry

Looks like they dont what there people to see how much better things might be elsewhere.

it's really hitting the fan - here a quote from Kleeneze , remembering that ALL distributors are self employed and that kleeneze makes NO guarantees to them about income or anything.

**“It has come to light that in some circumstances, one half of a distributorship has resigned to join another company, whilst the other half remains in Kleeneze, this is not acceptable. Therefore for the sake of clarity may I also remind everyone that any distributor, who offers their resignation, irrespective of whether they are the first or second applicant, then that distributorship will automatically be terminated unless prior consent has been given by Kleeneze to the resignation, again as detailed in the business manual under the section; Transfer Rights of Kleeneze Distributors.”**

Given that incomes have been falling for years and have taken a right slump recently now even top level distributors can't do anything else to make money. Given they are always been trumpeted as high earners and showing their supposed income cheques i9t seems really bad they can't make money to even match this supposed lifestyle.

wongawonga

Supposed to be the busiest time of the year in Kleeneze. So they waive delivery costs to help distributors.Something quite not right there.