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Neighbours hate children!
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What an awful situation. We had horrible neighbours a few years ago. The woman would knock on the wall if there was the slightest noise and we are a quiet family. It felt like we were treading on eggshells all the time and the annoying thing was, she had 3 children who brought their friends round and were incredibly noisy. Her eldest daughter would bring teenagers round at night when her parents were out and there would be shouting and screaming, loud music etc. They also had a bouncy castle for birthday parties etc and just made a lot of noise all the time. In the end we decided to move as it was just intolerable. We now live next door to an older lady on her own and are surrounded by people with no children so it is very peaceful. It got to the point when we were looking for a house that I would look for trampolines in the garden or any evidence of children. I know that makes me sound like a child hater but that is not true at all but I'm sure some parents don't realise how much their children annoy people. I don't mean you OP, I think your children sound lovely and I really feel sorry for you as it sounds like this situation is really making you ill. I would think you would be much better off moving even though you shouldn't have to. Just a thought that might help you get through however long it take s to sell your house, people have mentioned that the woman may be mentally ill or even be starting with dementia. Now while that might not be the case I think it might help if when she starts shouting, you think to yourself the poor old woman she's off again but she can't help it, it's her illness. I think if you can possibly get yourself into that sort of mindset it might help a bit. Good luck with your house move and I really hope you get nice neighbours next time:)0
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But a baby laughing (not crying), but playing happily is a lot of noise. What am i suppose to do? Gag the baby, keep her indoors until she is 10? Never go in my garden (Which we rarely do anyway). I think that soem people forget that they were once young children also.
I totally sympathise with you.
However, I think the point posters are making (and that older people may be sensitive to) is that children "playing happily" haven't always made a lot of noise. This is a modern behaviour pattern that has become the norm but older people are not accustomed to it.
Those of us who had our children more than 20 years ago taught our children to play quietly even when they were 'playing happily' and not screaming. For example, if one child wanted to speak to another they would walk up to their sibling and speak in a normal tone, not shout across the length of the garden as they do now.
The volume of 'normal play' has dramatically increased over the last couple of decades. Younger parents may not realise that it definitely hasn't always been this way and that both singletons and older parents may be more sensitive to it than they realise.0 -
Eton_Rifle wrote: »I totally sympathise with you.
However, I think the point posters are making (and that older people may be sensitive to) is that children "playing happily" haven't always made a lot of noise. This is a modern behaviour pattern that has become the norm but older people are not accustomed to it.
Those of us who had our children more than 20 years ago taught our children to play quietly even when they were 'playing happily' and not screaming. For example, if one child wanted to speak to another they would walk up to their sibling and speak in a normal tone, not shout across the length of the garden as they do now.
The volume of 'normal play' has dramatically increased over the last couple of decades. Younger parents may not realise that it definitely hasn't always been this way and that both singletons and older parents may be more sensitive to it than they realise.
Totally agree my nieghbours idea of " Playing " is not how mine played,i dont alow my grandchildren to make a noise either.0 -
Eton_Rifle wrote: »I totally sympathise with you.
However, I think the point posters are making (and that older people may be sensitive to) is that children "playing happily" haven't always made a lot of noise. This is a modern behaviour pattern that has become the norm but older people are not accustomed to it.
Those of us who had our children more than 20 years ago taught our children to play quietly even when they were 'playing happily' and not screaming. For example, if one child wanted to speak to another they would walk up to their sibling and speak in a normal tone, not shout across the length of the garden as they do now.
The volume of 'normal play' has dramatically increased over the last couple of decades. Younger parents may not realise that it definitely hasn't always been this way and that both singletons and older parents may be more sensitive to it than they realise.
Not allowed to say such heretical ideas on here. You'll get torn to shreds as a rabid child-hating evil person for daring to suggest anything other than perfection. I made the point about the noise earlier - kids enjoying themselves do have the tendency to shriek in a very high-pitched way that, if you're jumpy or sensitive to it, can go right through you... the noise is quite a valid thing - I've actually met a couple of older teachers who claim their hearing's been mildly hammered over the years from just normal classroom noise from early years aged children (doesn't help that the average classroom acoustics are rubbish) - just as example of how noisy things can be without any malice or bad behaviour.
That's why I made the point that it might be worth asking the neighbour on the other side for an honest opinion on the noise - just to get an impartial view as both sides seem dug in on the slightly immune to it/hyper sensitized to it fronts.
It won't go down well as a rational suggestion on here though because people do think that having children allows them to completely disregard anyone else's rights and feelings at times. Hence all the "wooo invite a million kids around and make their lives miserable" posts that got thanked to high heaven.Little miracle born April 2012, 33 weeks gestation and a little toughie!0 -
dizziblonde wrote: »Not allowed to say such heretical ideas on here. You'll get torn to shreds as a rabid child-hating evil person for daring to suggest anything other than perfection. I made the point about the noise earlier - kids enjoying themselves do have the tendency to shriek in a very high-pitched way that, if you're jumpy or sensitive to it, can go right through you... the noise is quite a valid thing - I've actually met a couple of older teachers who claim their hearing's been mildly hammered over the years from just normal classroom noise from early years aged children (doesn't help that the average classroom acoustics are rubbish) - just as example of how noisy things can be without any malice or bad behaviour.
That's why I made the point that it might be worth asking the neighbour on the other side for an honest opinion on the noise - just to get an impartial view as both sides seem dug in on the slightly immune to it/hyper sensitized to it fronts.
It won't go down well as a rational suggestion on here though because people do think that having children allows them to completely disregard anyone else's rights and feelings at times. Hence all the "wooo invite a million kids around and make their lives miserable" posts that got thanked to high heaven.
You are so right,i'm really stressed from nieghbours noise i think if anybody told them to fill up with a few more children and make more noise it would send me daft. they are a nice family but just can't hear just how much noise there children make, to them there just playing .0 -
I think the point is that no matter how loud the op's children are she should not have to put up with what her neighbour is putting her through. We have had some trouble with noise from neighbours lately and i simply asked if i could have a word and explained the situation, there was no abuse banging on walls etc, she apologised and said she didnt realise how noise travelled in our flats, we are still good friends:oIn 2009 i finally gave up smoking Have been smoke free for 3 years!!!!!!
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I think the point is that no matter how loud the op's children are she should not have to put up with what her neighbour is putting her through. We have had some trouble with noise from neighbours lately and i simply asked if i could have a word and explained the situation, there was no abuse banging on walls etc, she apologised and said she didnt realise how noise travelled in our flats, we are still good friends
You have a point,your lucky i tried that with my nieghbour she got all defensive and couldnt see my point .There is bad feeling between us now which is a real shame.
I still think the banging on walls etc is Tit for Tat she may not be capable of talking it through in a civilised way,I know she shouldnt behave like this but something has made her behave so badly.I have to confess i have slamed the door, I dont like sitting in the garden but I had the conservitory doors open reading a book within 15mins my piece was shattered shrieking and shouting started and I did get up and slam the door shut.Not the best way I know it was just frustration.0 -
hi OP - if you are selling up and moving then please dont report your neighbour to anyone!!! you have to disclose neighbour disputes in the buyers pack and its hardly a selling point is it?0
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Just goes to show, that I don't think we are meant to live in close proximity to each other, as I have always said the best kind of neighbour is one who has been decomposing on the living room carpet for a couple of months.
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I hope you don't sell to another family with children, it would be terrible for them to suffer like you have.We are born wet, naked, and hungry. Then things get worse.
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