The jobless are no shirking scroungers – you try living on £65.45 a week

Jomo

PasturesNew wrote: »

No, I am pointing out what somebody fairly new to JSA might be paying out for - especially when you first lose your job and already have it. It's when it breaks down and you lose it that it goes, but until it breaks down it still needs to be paid for just in case a job interview comes up.

Rubbish. If you lose your job you have to afford what is most important.

There is such a thing as public transport.

PasturesNew

I feel what's holding a lot of people back is the huge rents/mortgages they have to cover each month. Imagine if your rent/mortgage were only £200-250/month, it'd seem quite achievable to start your own business if you only had to find that much and cover council tax (let's imagine if that were just £50/month) and to cover 'lost jsa' of £280. Most people, backs against the wall, could generate an income of £500-600/month .... it's when rent's £800 and council tax is £120 and JSA lost is £280 that the figures suddenly become a scarey £1200/month.

High house prices (equalling high rents) have stopped people getting back to work and stopped people taking the plunge to work for themselves.

PasturesNew

Jomo wrote: »

There is such a thing as public transport.

So you would limit your ability to get a job to just jobs in one small town, that only wanted you to work certain/set hours? Because that's the reality in a lot of areas... a public transport route that isn't a network, but one direct route, that runs at times that don't match the needs of employers.

Most of the jobs I've ever done would be impossible for me to get to using public transport, especially temp jobs. I think temp agencies call me often because I have a car, not because I'm special....

Jomo

I agree there is a real issue with salary versus benefits and cost of living. The benefits trap is real and taking hold of many who have found themselves on benefits and have taken the decision not to bother working unless they find a job of their dreams.

PasturesNew

Jomo wrote: »

Not necessarily so. A good manager doesn't need to have that experience as they are managing a team not necessarily doing the packing or whatever it is.

Sorry, but down here it's all small companies. A manager of picker/packers will be doing the job alongside the people they manage. It just means some extra bits and bobs to do as and when needed... e.g. sort out questions/issues and ticking a list that everybody turned up. etc. £6.50/hour, it's just a supervisor really, but they call it manager so it sounds important.

I can link you if you want to apply and see if you get an interview

ILW

Did Cameron say something about anyone that turns down a job will have their benefits stopped?

liswan

Jomo wrote: »

They should break away from welfare dependancy then...ie. get a job :cool:

well a would get a real job if one was on offer unfortunately jobs today tend to go to those with additional needs( big subsidies for the sick disabled and young)
Employers dont want to spend their own money hiring labour.
Maybe since so many work ten hours or more on top of their working week we should reduce the working week by 10 hours to 29 hours that would create a few million jobs :T Then we could reduce the pension age and make it illegal to hire anyone over 60 give us a few million more jobs put up pensions and bang wallop its all solved :j

lilac_lady

Perhaps JSA should be linked (initially) to the wage earned before the person had to make a claim. If the person, sorry client (must be PC) hasn't worked, then the JSA payment should be lower than the one given to previous workers.

Jomo

PasturesNew wrote: »

Sorry, but down here it's all small companies. A manager of picker/packers will be doing the job alongside the people they manage. It just means some extra bits and bobs to do as and when needed... e.g. sort out questions/issues and ticking a list that everybody turned up. etc. £6.50/hour, it's just a supervisor really, but they call it manager so it sounds important.

I can link you if you want to apply and see if you get an interview

Got a job ta!

StevieJ

silvercar wrote: »

You've got a pretty big car if a tank of petrol costs £65.

If you are on benefit you can't afford a decent lunch out.

"a treat for the kids" - if you had kids you would get more than £65 a week, which incidentally doesn't include LHA, free prescriptions, dentists, council tax benefit...

I must agree that I have more sympathy with articles when all the facts are presented, still a pretty dire existence though.