daughter's iphone stolen at school

MrsBartolozzi

But surely theft is theft?
If the bag was stolen outright when the teacher said it was to be left unattended how would the school react? Or if something else was taken or even damaged by a pupil stomping on the bag left casually in the corridor? Something which might cost more than a couple of quid to replace - eg specs?
Would they recompense for the loss of bag, PE kit including trainers, calculator, dinner money , even a spare pair of specs etc. (all of these items are perfectly "legal"necessary items to have at school.)
While I appreciate that the cost of the Iphone is much higher than the average contents of a school bag the fact that something was taken by a thief from a bag is serious enough for the school to take some kind of responsibility in replacing what the child is now without (they did seem to think leaving it in the open was a good idea after all), at the very least in doing their utmost to find the culprit, and helping the police in their enquiries.

I would be interested to hear if the OP had any update to this story.

custardy

MrsBartolozzi wrote: »

But surely theft is theft?
If the bag was stolen outright when the teacher said it was to be left unattended how would the school react? Or if something else was taken or even damaged by a pupil stomping on the bag left casually in the corridor? Something which might cost more than a couple of quid to replace - eg specs?
Would they recompense for the loss of bag, PE kit including trainers, calculator, dinner money , even a spare pair of specs etc. (all of these items are perfectly "legal"necessary items to have at school.)
While I appreciate that the cost of the Iphone is much higher than the average contents of a school bag the fact that something was taken by a thief from a bag is serious enough for the school to take some kind of responsibility in replacing what the child is now without (they did seem to think leaving it in the open was a good idea after all), at the very least in doing their utmost to find the culprit, and helping the police in their enquiries.

I would be interested to hear if the OP had any update to this story.

if you park your car in Tesco car park and it gets stolen,will Tesco pay?
items required for school are a different matter and im sure you would have case for lost school books etc
however common sense would tell the kid to keep the iphone on their person than leave it in a corridor unattended

DarkConvict

Kids are told to bring pc kit, stationary etc. to the school.

The school told the kids/parents not to bring mobiles and other device to school. Don't you think there was a reason for this?

chattyuk

Im 17 and thought I'd pop my thoughts into this.
A few years ago my school had a policy of no mobile phones but they decided to wise up and realised most people needed a phone. They changed their policy to say that phones were allowed in school and on person but if caught out in class it would be took from them.

To say that phones arent needed in todays world is quite silly and things can change in all the time in school. I also cannot see how bring a phone into school is setting your kids a bad example, she isn't going to start breaking every other school rule!

A school girl having an iphone isn't necessary and should instead have a cheap £10 PAYG phone? Does anybody actually need an iphone or an expensive phone?

custardy

chattyuk wrote: »

Im 17 and thought I'd pop my thoughts into this.
A few years ago my school had a policy of no mobile phones but they decided to wise up and realised most people needed a phone. They changed their policy to say that phones were allowed in school and on person but if caught out in class it would be took from them.

To say that phones arent needed in todays world is quite silly and things can change in all the time in school. I also cannot see how bring a phone into school is setting your kids a bad example, she isn't going to start breaking every other school rule!

A school girl having an iphone isn't necessary and should instead have a cheap £10 PAYG phone? Does anybody actually need an iphone or an expensive phone?

like what?

robt_2

chattyuk wrote: »

To say that phones arent needed in todays world is quite silly and things can change in all the time in school. I also cannot see how bring a phone into school is setting your kids a bad example, she isn't going to start breaking every other school rule!

A school girl having an iphone isn't necessary and should instead have a cheap £10 PAYG phone? Does anybody actually need an iphone or an expensive phone?

Yes, it is so silly that we have managed for hundreds of years without them. Despite what you think, the vast majority of school children do not NEED them. They WANT them.

However, yes, some people do NEED an expensive phone (not necessarily an iPhone). Some people NEED their phones to have functions that other people do not NEED.

jem16

chattyuk wrote: »

Im 17 and thought I'd pop my thoughts into this.
A few years ago my school had a policy of no mobile phones but they decided to wise up and realised most people needed a phone. They changed their policy to say that phones were allowed in school and on person but if caught out in class it would be took from them.

Phones were banned in school for a number of reasons, one major one being cameras on phones. We have had children in toilets taking pictures of other children using phones.

To say that phones arent needed in todays world is quite silly and things can change in all the time in school.

I do wonder how I managed to go to school for 13 years without a phone. If my parents needed to get hold of me urgently they phoned the school.

I also cannot see how bring a phone into school is setting your kids a bad example, she isn't going to start breaking every other school rule!

Why not?

If you assume it's alright to break one rule why not break all the others?

MrsBartolozzi

custardy wrote: »

if you park your car in Tesco car park and it gets stolen,will Tesco pay?

No, but I'd expect Tesco to pay if they suddenly required me to leave my bag at the door unattended while I shopped.

Now, even this is not a decent analogy because Tesco have no authority over me and what I do with my bag and if I was unhappy with leaving my bag at the door I'd choose to shop elsewhere or on a different day. The OP's child did not have that option.

custardy

MrsBartolozzi wrote: »

No, but I'd expect Tesco to pay if they suddenly required me to leave my bag at the door unattended while I shopped.

Now, even this is not a decent analogy because Tesco have no authority over me and what I do with my bag and if I was unhappy with leaving my bag at the door I'd choose to shop elsewhere or on a different day. The OP's child did not have that option.

the did however have the option to..

obey the no phones rule
keep the phone on their person

gjchester

MrsBartolozzi wrote: »

No, but I'd expect Tesco to pay if they suddenly required me to leave my bag at the door unattended while I shopped.

Now, even this is not a decent analogy because Tesco have no authority over me and what I do with my bag and if I was unhappy with leaving my bag at the door I'd choose to shop elsewhere or on a different day. The OP's child did not have that option.

Not hugely wrong, Toys r US have a no large bag policy and say leave it in the car. Sometims you'll be asked at the door to go take you bag back to the car and lock it away. Good idea, discourages shoplifting and also accidental damge from large bags.

Your right Tesco's or Toys R US have no authority over you if you refuse but if you want to use their store then they can say the terms of entry. If all supermarkets did it people would soon follow the policy or not get any shopping.

The issues not the policy it's why poeple feel the need to break a policy for something thats not a "NEED" but a want.