daughter's iphone stolen at school

Fire_Fox

Silk wrote: »

Hi DC,
Theres lots of things kids aren't supposed to take into school but they do !

In my day it was cigarettes, transister radio's etc and if you were caught with them they would be confiscated from you untill the end of term, that was the risk you took.
There was no such risk as a thief stealing them from you and the school blaming "you" for having them in your possesion.

I remember when I was 13 ish a kid had his football boots stolen and we were all kept in after school till about 6pm till the thief confessed.
When he did he was suspended for 2 weeks and had to write an apology to all the other kids parents for keeping them after school.

For the school to try to pass the blame onto the victim is staggering as is this idea of dumping your belongings outside unattended !

Life is one long game of consequences. Yes both adults and children break rules and even laws regularly, if you get caught then you suffer the results - be that your items being confiscated, detention, verbal or written warning at work, points on your license for speeding, theft of your laptop from an unlocked car, breaking your leg falling out of a tree, getting knocked down playing 'chicken'.

Of course action should be taken by the proper authorities (police) to investigate this matter and the school should cooperate fully. The school should not be held responsible for the theft of an item that was not supposed to be in the bag - I would feel differently if the child's school bag or purse containing lunch money had been stolen, but the fact is they were not.

It is not a case of the school passing the blame onto the victim, it is a case of the victim's family trying to pass the blame onto the school!! How is the teacher supposed to know there was a £450 iPhone in the school bag when the child did not tell them and the parents had not bothered to discuss their need for communication with the headteacher? It is about accepting personal responsibility for contributing to the situation - ultimately blame lies with the thief alone.

POPPYOSCAR

Silk wrote: »

Hi DC,
Theres lots of things kids aren't supposed to take into school but they do !

In my day it was cigarettes, transister radio's etc and if you were caught with them they would be confiscated from you untill the end of term, that was the risk you took.
There was no such risk as a thief stealing them from you and the school blaming "you" for having them in your possesion.

I remember when I was 13 ish a kid had his football boots stolen and we were all kept in after school till about 6pm till the thief confessed.
When he did he was suspended for 2 weeks and had to write an apology to all the other kids parents for keeping them after school.

For the school to try to pass the blame onto the victim is staggering as is this idea of dumping your belongings outside unattended !

There are about 1200 kids in my childrens school. Can you imagine keeping all them in!! The teachers would probably club together to buy a new pair of boots!!!!!!!!!!!!

Silk

robt wrote: »

But I am guessing that the football boots were something which were meant to be in the school to start with. If so, that is a huge difference and I think you might be missing the point.

Hi robt,
Not realy, they were taken from his bag in a woodwork class and it was summer when it was athletics and cricket.
From what I remember he was never asked why he had them in his bag.

I don't think I'm missing the point ...are you saying it's ok to nick someones possesions if it is something that they are "not supposed to have in school"

Muntz

jamespir wrote: »

giving a child an iphone is ridiculous letting her take it to school is even more stupid

Again you dont know this "childs" age.

mark88man wrote: »

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b. i will contact the police but as i say i wanted to have a chat with her and she had to go out babysitting (its her money that pays for most of the phone)

do we not seem to notice here that this "child" helps pay for her phone. Please stop having ago at a person whom you know nothing about, you have assumed in your minds a small child who knows nothing has taken this to school.

because clearly once you leave school and start working no one steals from you at an office or on the streets, no no only these expensive things are stolen from children.

THINGS HAPPEN stop having ago at the OP and her child, you don't know them!

Silk

Fire_Fox wrote: »

The school should not be held responsible for the theft of an item that was not supposed to be in the bag I would feel differently if the child's school bag or purse containing lunch money had been stolen, but the fact is they were not.

Hi Fire Fox,
I'm not sure I follow the train of thought are you saying it's ok to nick an iphone but not not a bag or lunch money .....theft is theft
So if a kid nicks anything that is not supposed to be in the school thats fair game then ????

Originally Posted by Fire Fox
It is not a case of the school passing the blame onto the victim, it is a case of the victim's family trying to pass the blame onto the school!! How is the teacher supposed to know there was a £450 iPhone in the school bag when the child did not tell them and the parents had not bothered to discuss their need for communication with the headteacher?

The school is to blame if the teacher instructs the pupils to leave bags unattended outside, it's a bit of an open invitation for someone to nick something isn't it !
If the teacher did not ask what was in the bags he isn't going to know is he? so why take a chance on leaving stuff outside.

Silk

POPPYOSCAR wrote: »

There are about 1200 kids in my childrens school. Can you imagine keeping all them in!! The teachers would probably club together to buy a new pair of boots!!!!!!!!!!!!

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
Yeah in the case I was talking about it was only a class of about 25 or so although there were about 650 in my school at the time I do remember us all being kept back once because some idiot had set off the fire alarm :mad:

POPPYOSCAR

Silk wrote: »

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
Yeah in the case I was talking about it was only a class of about 25 or so although there were about 650 in my school at the time I do remember us all being kept back once because some idiot had set off the fire alarm :mad:

The trouble is today I doubt if any one would confess they would probably quote their 'Human Rights' at the teachers for being detained illegally!!!!

sookipeaspud

I brought my nephew a HTC for his school. My other nephew used to carry a blackberry storm.

But their parents are loaded. They chuckled when he lost his Blackberry, he is was only 13 at the time.

As for paupers and peseants like us with mortgages.....its a big no no!

[Deleted User]

Going back to the main point... why the hell did the kid have an iPhone in school anyway?

If I was sending a kid to school, I'd send them with a beaten-up 3-year-old Nokia for the purpose of staying in touch with me if the need arose. If it got stolen, no big loss. Bar the [pay as you go] SIM card, stick a replacement in another old phone.

Micky

I trust my tax money isn't being wasted paying for teaching staff to deal with the theft of a pupil's mobile phone ...