daughter's iphone stolen at school

Tony5101

Just to add another spin onto this...what position would the school have taken, had the complete bag been stolen...knowing that it was a member of their staff that instructed the pupil to leave the bag unattended -outside-. Surely it would then be down to the school to claim on their insurance, to replace the bag and it's contents?

parallax_20

I agree with Custardy. Cash and iPhone comparison is valid, on the basis that both items are designed to be carried on the person and should not to be left unattended. Hence the insurance clause...

Cars on the other hand are designed to be left unattended, and thus cannot be compared in the same way.

JimArnold

The point is in this day and age when public transport is so unreliable and public phones are non existent the vast majority of kids carry phones. My 2 daughters walk one mile along poorly lit roads for a bus or train, travel 4 miles then walk 1/2 mile if I cannot give them a lift There are no public phones along the way I would not be happy if they could not call when there is a problem I would be just as annoyed if my kids had a £10PAYG stolen .

It is unreasonable for schools to ban pupils carrying them - ban using them during school hours yes by all means Even insist they are placed in lockers on arrival.

As a previous poster pointed out schools try and restrict pupils and parents rights I'll bet there is no such ban on staff carrying phones !

How to get changes ion school policy? PTA is a waste of time they cannot make school policy
The best is to arrange an appointment with the deputy head a few days before the school next has an open evening for PROSPECTIVE parents and then if you don't get a satisfactory response tell them you will make sure all proprioceptive parents know the school rules either by a letter to the local paper or if necessary giving out leaflets outside the school. The thought of losing a few bums on seats next year works wonders

hazelwoods

JimArnold wrote: »

The point is in this day and age when public transport is so unreliable and public phones are non existent the vast majority of kids carry phones. My 2 daughters walk one mile along poorly lit roads for a bus or train, travel 4 miles then walk 1/2 mile if I cannot give them a lift There are no public phones along the way I would not be happy if they could not call when there is a problem I would be just as annoyed if my kids had a £10PAYG stolen .

It is unreasonable for schools to ban pupils carrying them - ban using them during school hours yes by all means Even insist they are placed in lockers on arrival.

As a previous poster pointed out schools try and restrict pupils and parents rights I'll bet there is no such ban on staff carrying phones !

How to get changes ion school policy? PTA is a waste of time they cannot make school policy
The best is to arrange an appointment with the deputy head a few days before the school next has an open evening for PROSPECTIVE parents and then if you don't get a satisfactory response tell them you will make sure all proprioceptive parents know the school rules either by a letter to the local paper or if necessary giving out leaflets outside the school. The thought of losing a few bums on seats next year works wonders

You are missing the point. There is NO need for a pupil to have a high risk iphone in school. A £10 PAYG would not be a high risk item.

The vast majority of pupils do not have a NEED for a phone in school. If they or their parents choose to have a phone in school it is a risk they take.

As the rule is policy in most, if not all schools, there is little point in canvassing prospective parents. They will already know. I would suspect that such action would not make the school change policy, but would certainly bring the complaining parent to the school's attention.

robt_2

JimArnold wrote: »

The point is in this day and age when public transport is so unreliable and public phones are non existent the vast majority of kids carry phones. My 2 daughters walk one mile along poorly lit roads for a bus or train, travel 4 miles then walk 1/2 mile if I cannot give them a lift There are no public phones along the way I would not be happy if they could not call when there is a problem I would be just as annoyed if my kids had a £10PAYG stolen

Is this post a joke? Bless them having to walk half a mile if you can't give them a lift!

You would be just as annoyed if a £500 phone was stolen as a £10 phone?

Why does a child need a £500 phone?

kendalls_cave

Fair enough if you think they need a phone, but they don't *need* an iphone, a basic phone will do the job just as well and won't be such a target

-N34

hazelwoods wrote: »

You are missing the point. There is NO need for a pupil to have a high risk iphone in school. A £10 PAYG would not be a high risk item.

The vast majority of pupils do not have a NEED for a phone in school. If they or their parents choose to have a phone in school it is a risk they take.

As the rule is policy in most, if not all schools, there is little point in canvassing prospective parents. They will already know. I would suspect that such action would not make the school change policy, but would certainly bring the complaining parent to the school's attention.

But for some a £10 PAYG mobile would be a risk no? After all, this is a money saving forum. If the school has not allowed mobiles, then what action are they taking to stop it? None. So they've basically, put a clause in their policy, and sat back on their !!!!!! and not enforced it. Just in case something happens and they can "point to the policy". Ridiculous.

-N34

Deleted, double post.

hazelwoods

-N34 wrote: »

But for some a £10 PAYG mobile would be a risk no? After all, this is a money saving forum. If the school has not allowed mobiles, then what action are they taking to stop it? None. So they've basically, put a clause in their policy, and sat back on their !!!!!! and not enforced it. Just in case something happens and they can "point to the policy". Ridiculous.

The no phones policy was in place long before the majority of children had phones. If parents choose to ignore the rule they are teaching their children that rules are there to be broken, and it is acceptable to do so.
What a fine example to set to your children.

-N34

hazelwoods wrote: »

The no phones policy was in place long before the majority of children had phones. If parents choose to ignore the rule they are teaching their children that rules are there to be broken, and it is acceptable to do so.
What a fine example to set to your children.

Again, why have the school not done anything? If I were breaking the law, the police would make sure that I didn't do it again. But the school seem to be "cool" about letting them bring phones? It's obvious that it's there to cover their backs.