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Lazy postman couldnt be bothered to knock door !!!

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  • pulliptears
    pulliptears Posts: 14,583 Forumite
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    edited 17 May 2010 at 12:01PM
    Have to say, both my walk postie and van postie are brilliant blokes, both go the extra mile to be helpful and always stop for a chat if I run into them.
  • Oopsadaisy
    Oopsadaisy Posts: 1,818 Forumite
    verytired wrote: »
    I dunno, maybe they're trying to be polite 'cause it's early....

    Polite...rofpml!!!!

    30 secs saved per delivery, 100 deliverys/day = 50 mins earlier finish...that's why they do it.
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  • custardy
    custardy Posts: 38,365 Forumite
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    Oopsadaisy wrote: »
    Polite...rofpml!!!!

    30 secs saved per delivery, 100 deliverys/day = 50 mins earlier finish...that's why they do it.

    or under pressure trying to finish the duty on time
    not making excuses but with RM's new georouted walks the idea of finishing 50 minutes early is a pipedream
  • sivyour
    sivyour Posts: 36 Forumite
    :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
    PopeSock wrote: »
    Someone could concievably nip in, hid in the downstairs loo, and then have the run of the house when you left, I suppose.
    :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

    Never mind the toilet monster - Its the burglers coming in through the window you wanna watch for!
  • sivyour
    sivyour Posts: 36 Forumite
    We had loads of issues with our postie.
    He used to tease the neighbours dog with a stick through the letter box, and one day I caught him pushing and pulling the post in and out of our letter box getting the dog to go for it.
    I let him meet my dog one day....which put a stop to him teasing him but didnt stop him kicking at our hens or banging the front of our hutch!
    They took him off the round for a a bit for swearing rants about pretty much everything, litter, hedges, kids etc but he's back now and I have a bigger dog! lol
  • sivyour wrote: »
    We had loads of issues with our postie.
    He used to tease the neighbours dog with a stick through the letter box, and one day I caught him pushing and pulling the post in and out of our letter box getting the dog to go for it.
    I let him meet my dog one day....which put a stop to him teasing him but didnt stop him kicking at our hens or banging the front of our hutch!
    They took him off the round for a a bit for swearing rants about pretty much everything, litter, hedges, kids etc but he's back now and I have a bigger dog! lol

    I think I'd do that too if I was a postie to liven up my day !
  • Oopsadaisy
    Oopsadaisy Posts: 1,818 Forumite
    Custardy, as an ex-postie could you tell us how many hours a day you typically worked/were paid for??

    Was it 'job and finish'??

    Were there 'ridiculous/amazingly generous' overtime arrangements??

    Was it as 'unionised' 'jobs worth' 'bad mgt practices' as most people believe it to be???

    Go on, give us an insight...
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  • custardy
    custardy Posts: 38,365 Forumite
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    edited 19 May 2010 at 10:41AM
    Oopsadaisy wrote: »
    Custardy, as an ex-postie could you tell us how many hours a day you typically worked/were paid for??

    Was it 'job and finish'??

    Were there 'ridiculous/amazingly generous' overtime arrangements??

    Was it as 'unionised' 'jobs worth' 'bad mgt practices' as most people believe it to be???

    Go

    well when i started (5 years service) it was great (and ridiculous)
    easily finished 1 hour early every day,maybe more
    overtime was organised on a 'hours' system
    so if you were doing half a walk in overtime you would get 4 hours payment
    so if a walk took 3 hours,you did half and got paid 4 hours
    so over double time
    combined with finishing early you could be finished by your time and getting 4 hours overtime!
    if managers were stuck and nobody was keen on overtime then a 'deal' would be struck
    so more hours paid,letting you out early,a day in lieu or even haggling on the sickness procedure were known to happen
    so a manager would strike off a sickness from record for doing overtime
    thing is,everything got done,staff were relatively happy(okay still moaned!) and i think people would agree a far better service than now

    now one thing to bear in mind here is RM introduced job & finish as a carrot for extending delivery spans and dropping second deliveries

    now in my 1st year at RM,the cuts in staffing really kicked in
    the promise of walk sequencing machines to sort mail and cut manual sorting were used
    these cuts continued year on year coupled with changes to starting time,internal procedures etc

    by my 5th year the job was unrecognisable
    when i started we would ber on the street delivering by 8am
    now its after 10am
    my office was converted to park and loop (2 in a van doing 2 foot deliveries plus the van delivery duty absorbed into it)
    RM use software to do this and the simple fact is it doesnt work.like an program like this its only as good as the data inputted to it

    every day many including myself couldnt finish on time
    bullying and harrasment is rife in RM
    everything was okay at first for me as i could work over
    however once my parter got made redundant and her new job had opposing hours to mine
    so suddenly i needed to be finished on time (or near enough) every day
    thats when the RM management style comes into its own :mad:

    overtime now has to be predicted before you leave the office on delivery.then signed the next day
    you can expect the 3rd degree over this and plenty of pressure not to sign for overtime

    I know some offices are still in ye olde working practices but park and loop is coming nationally
    its part of that pathetic deal the CWU made
    if folks think theres mail service is poor now then just wait

    not too much of a rant :o
  • gazebo
    gazebo Posts: 465 Forumite
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    what is this mystical thing called overtime or finishing early? isn't it a myth?

    custardy, I find your posts very helpful and strangely alarming all at the same time - as this is the future coming to me very soon...

    best get looking into alternatives I guess
  • cyberbob
    cyberbob Posts: 9,480 Forumite
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    edited 19 May 2010 at 10:51AM
    custardy wrote: »
    easily finished 1 hour early every day,maybe more
    overtime was organised on a 'hours' system
    so if you were doing half a walk in overtime you would get 4 hours payment
    so if a walk took 3 hours,you did half and got paid 4 hours
    so over double time
    combined with finishing early you could be finished by your time and getting 4 hours overtime!
    if managers were stuck and nobody was keen on overtime then a 'deal' would be struck
    so more hours paid,letting you out early,a day in lieu or even haggling on the sickness procedure were known to happen

    So you got double time for all overtime (sometimes more). Finished early everyday. Or held the management to ransom for extra days off!

    And then we had the complaints about the poor hard done by overworked postie. No wonder they had to change that.
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