getting a company to tell me their companies house number

DebtHater

I dont see what you mean by "debtors letter"

If you want to claim money back from a company/trader, you will need to go down the Small Claims Court route by going to http://www.moneyclaim.gov.uk

If you want to just send them a letter saying they owe you money, you can send an LBA (Letter Before Action) warning them to pay up or you will take it to court. Make sure you state the amount owed, why they owe it and state they have 14 working days to resolve the issue. Google "Letter Before Action template" and you will see examples.

If you dont receive anything within 14 days, you will be entitled to refer this to the small claims court to get them to look at resolving the issue for you.

omen666

yogiberr wrote: »

hiya,

No, I'm not wasting people's time.I have taken the advice of looking up the company name on domains and contacted companies house.

If you don't have their full corporate details but a trading name and address, send the debtors letter anyway.

Ok, where do i get the template for this debtor's letter?The one I have needs the actual company trading name?

ta,

yogi

I would hazard a guess and say there are far more people here who are equipped to find out the necessary details you want if you were to post their domain name. If you cannot be arsed to do that then I canno see why people would bother helping. Many of us on here from the smallest of details have found out more than enoug information about people and companies and even closed some down for their sins.

Would strongly suggest you post it if you wish any further advice

MX5huggy

I use the wrong company name and the sheriff court try to enforce the debtor's letter, then I'll incur costs

I guess that the OP is in Scotland or the company is, so advice needs to be in Scottish.

I wasted 4 days on a jury in england before some worked out that as the defrauded company was scottish the case could not be heard in england.

Equaliser123

More details are required. I still don't even know what a debtors letter is intended to be.

zzzLazyDaisy

Equaliser123 wrote: »

More details are required. I still don't even know what a debtors letter is intended to be.

Me neither.

OP if you give us some information about what it is that has happened and what you are trying to do, there may be people on here who can help you to find a way round it. But without more information it is impossible to help you.

It is particularly difficult because you are in Scotland, so there is not much point in people telling you what you should do if you lived in England, as the law (and procedure) may be different, so this is another reason why we need to know what has happened and what you are trying to do.

Of course you may not wish to tell us, but that does mean we may not be able to help you.

Sorry.

yogiberr

hiya,

Their URL is http://www.pmcollege.co.uk/

I also found an article:
http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/Home/5570672-146/nigerians_lose_millions_in_search_of.csp

Any help in tracking their company house name appreciated.

ta,

yogi

DebtHater

yogiberr wrote: »

hiya,

Their URL is http://www.pmcollege.co.uk/

I also found an article:
http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/Home/5570672-146/nigerians_lose_millions_in_search_of.csp

Any help in tracking their company house name appreciated.

ta,

yogi

OK, got it for ya.

The PM College website application form states that an address in Hatfield, Hertfordshire is the admissions office, with postal code AL10 0PJ.

Running a quick check via Nominet (Domain name whois) says that GCS Worldwide Ltd is the domain name owner, with the same address in Hertfordshire.

HOWEVER, when I ran these details through my credit check software, it has come up saying that the company has been dissolved. They also have numerous court appearances and CCJs registered against them. I would imagine the only thing you could do to get money out of them, etc, would be to add your details to the creditor list and you "may" get your money back, but this is doubtful.

Details below, sorry I cant help any further.

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Company Name: GCS Worldwide
Company Address: The White House, 5 West View, Hatfield, Hertfordshire, AL10 0PJ
Company Number: 03558775

Contact Details:
Barbara O'Neil (BA Honours)
Admissions Executive

UK Contact Centre
Tel. / Fax.:+ 44 800 027 0873 UK Enquirers: [EMAIL="info@pmcollege.co.uk"]info@pmcollege.co.uk[/EMAIL]

Credit Score: 11 out of 100 (Risk Level: Extreme/Dissolved)

Credit/Court History:

March 2004: Reinstatement Notice
October 2008: County Court Judgement (CCJ)
December 2009: Intentions to dissolve
April 2010: Dissolution Notice (Accepted, company now dissolved)

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Domain Name Info:

Domain name:
pmcollege.co.uk

Registrant:
GCS Worldwide

Registrant type:
Unknown

Registrant's address:
The White House, West View
Hatfield
Hertfordshire
AL10 0PJ
United Kingdom

Registrar:
Webfusion Ltd t/a 123-Reg.co.uk [Tag = 123-REG]
URL: http://www.123-reg.co.uk

Relevant dates:
Registered on: 28-Jun-2004
Renewal date: 28-Jun-2010
Last updated: 28-Jun-2008

Registration status:
Registered until renewal date.

Name servers:
ns1.qbicinternet.com
ns2.qbicinternet.com

Disclaimer
WHOIS lookup made at 12:22:05 08-Jun-2010

DebtHater

And Google Streetview shows that they have a very nice house!

yogiberr

hiya debtHater,

Thanks very much for the info.It's much more than i got, despite doing loads of digging.So...Do you know how I can find out how to add my claim to the creditor list that they obviously have against them?

Many thanks,

yogi

missimaxo

If the company has been dissolved there is no list of creditors - it will either have been dissolved voluntarily (and from memory to do this the directors have to declare that there are no debts) or it could have been by companies house if they suspected that the company was no longer a live trading company - usually when annual returns and accounts have not been filed for some time.

A list of creditors would be held by a liquidator if it had been wound up - on either a voluntary or compulsory basis, or in administration/ CVA - but from the info above none of these have happened.

As a creditor - if you are owed more than £750 you can apply to court to reinstate the company to the register (ie, undissolve it) and then apply to wind it up. Then if the company has any assets you would get an equal proportion to other creditors but it would cost a bit to do this (sorry - cannot remember how much the fees are - you could check on www.insolvency.gov.uk and I think its on there). If the company has no assets you will not get a penny back, or the costs of yu taking the action.

If the company has other creditors then one of them may also do the above process, but the only creditor who usually bothers is HMRC and it could take them a while to do it (from experiennce).