2.5 Yr old Thrown out of beefeater

lucylucky

NoKidsAllowed wrote: »

So asking us to leave was not causing a scene? Did it cause a scene or did you go quietly?
Moving us to the secluded bar away from the other paying customers was not causing a scene? Did you complain about this and cause a scene?

Our decision contributed to the overall poor experience? What, our decision for a child who was in distress to be the reason why a 'Child Friendly' restaurant asked us to leave? Your decision not to complain about the food. Did you enjoy your meal? I think not

I stand by my decision that complaining about the food at the time and having 2 toddlers meals 'whisked away' from them was not in THEIR best interest. I disagree with your decision, I would certainly have complained

As a mother I sometimes have to put the interests of my children ahead of my own. No problem with that at all. Was it their deciision to go for the meal? You point out that one of the reasons for them being distressed was that they were in the company of family, I assume in the planning stages you didn't think about this?

As a person on my own I would have loved to have not gone back into the restaurant. As a mother that left us with the issue of having 2 hungry children and no food. Peak time on a Sunday. No other places sold food nearby I take it? No spuermarkets corners shops, restaurants? All the snacks you had with you had been eaten at this point?
As a person on my own I would have loved to complained about the food and sent it back until they could have brought out the right food. As a mother that left me with 2 toddlers having their food taken away from them. Fair enough if you are happy to have your children eat things you did not ask for

What would you propose that I would do to 'Grow a spine' and no longer be a pushover?

Stick up for yourself and your immediate family.

ShugMonkey

A similar situation happens where we own a holiday home.

There are 2 bars, one for parents with children and one for adults only.

Every evening adults without kids take their places in the childrens room, then start with their sniping when one of the kids gets noisy.

It's the same with these pub chains. If you go into one of the chains, before 8-00pm at night you have to expect children to be there.

90% of parents keep their kids well behaved but the 10% spoil it for everyone, even us with well behaved kids.

Everyone take a chill pill :rotfl:

heavensbug

lucylucky wrote: »

Stick up for yourself and your immediate family.

Unfortunatly it is not as easy as that when you have travelled 100 miles to be with a family member for their milestone birthday.

Would you like to be the bad guy for "ruining" the occasion. Or maybe the bad guy for "Walking out" on a special occasion.

Something you will not hear the end of for months if not years on end.

Or would you take easier street. Make sure your children are fed, watered and happy.

You are not open to sniping from your own parents. And believe me I would be.

And then you cause a scene in your own time where you only have your feelings to deal with and not that of your children, your parents, your sister by e-mail, phoning and making a complaint in writing.

NoKidsAllowed

lucylucky wrote: »

So asking us to leave was not causing a scene? Did it cause a scene or did you go quietly?
We went quietly. The manageress had ALREADY caused the scene by asking us to leave

Moving us to the secluded bar away from the other paying customers was not causing a scene? Did you complain about this and cause a scene?
The scene had already been caused by the Manageress uprooting my family from our table

Our decision contributed to the overall poor experience? What, our decision for a child who was in distress to be the reason why a 'Child Friendly' restaurant asked us to leave? Your decision not to complain about the food. Did you enjoy your meal? I think not
No, I did not enjoy my meal. But my daughters who were blissfully unaware did. THAT's what mattered.


I stand by my decision that complaining about the food at the time and having 2 toddlers meals 'whisked away' from them was not in THEIR best interest. I disagree with your decision, I would certainly have complained
Reiterate, I did not want my daughters meals taken away from then. That was more important to me than complaining at the time!!



As a mother I sometimes have to put the interests of my children ahead of my own. No problem with that at all. Was it their deciision to go for the meal? You point out that one of the reasons for them being distressed was that they were in the company of family, I assume in the planning stages you didn't think about this?
The meal was for a family members 60th. They were seeing family that they do not see often. That coupled with hunger and having just woken was a small factor. In the planning stages I did not envisage a chain being so unaccomodating!


As a person on my own I would have loved to have not gone back into the restaurant. As a mother that left us with the issue of having 2 hungry children and no food. Peak time on a Sunday. No other places sold food nearby I take it? No spuermarkets corners shops, restaurants? All the snacks you had with you had been eaten at this point?
No there were no supermarkets close by. Snacks were being eaten but weren't going to sustain two toddlers at lunchtime.

As a person on my own I would have loved to complained about the food and sent it back until they could have brought out the right food. As a mother that left me with 2 toddlers having their food taken away from them. Fair enough if you are happy to have your children eat things you did not ask for
I was able to salvage some of their meal and gave them the garlic bread that came with mine.


What would you propose that I would do to 'Grow a spine' and no longer be a pushover?
Stick up for yourself and your immediate family.

I'd rather do what I did that day than drag my children across town hunting for somewhere to eat as you have suggested. I stick up for my family and make sure that they are looked after. Growing a spine does not come into it!

lucylucky

NoKidsAllowed wrote: »

I'd rather do what I did that day than drag my children across town hunting for somewhere to eat as you have suggested. I stick up for my family and make sure that they are looked after. Growing a spine does not come into it!

I did not suggest dragging your children across town hunting for anything.

What scene occurred when you were asked to move or did you go quietly to avoid sending out the wrong vibes to your daughters?

Glad your daughters enjoyed their meal. Shame you did not.

I thought they were snacking so their immediate hunger was being dealt with?

I doubt a two and a half year old would care what age the relative was.

Given the attitude you describe of your family who seemed not to care whether you stayed or went I certainly would not have felt the "bad guy" for leaving.

"You are not open to sniping from your own parents." I genuinely don't know what you mean by this - sorry.

You stick up for your family as long as it doesn't cause a scene it would appear.

liam8282

Children cry and play up waiting for food at a pub restaurant, oh shock, oh horror.

Believe it or not, that is what most children do at some point or another.

I can't believe that somebody would actually complain about this in the first place. Fair enough other peoples kids can be annoying at times, but they have every right to be in the place.

I suppose every other person sat in silence and ate their meals?

If somebody had the audacity to treat my family in such a disrespectful way, I would make sure I took the complaints as far as possible.

I would not have let them get away with making the OP feel belittled at the time either.

NoKidsAllowed

lucylucky wrote: »

You stick up for your family as long as it doesn't cause a scene it would appear.

I'm sorry but I don't understand this mentality that you're only defending your family if you cause a scene.

Anyway I think I've fed this troll enough for today.

lucylucky

NoKidsAllowed wrote: »

I'm sorry but I don't understand this mentality that you're only defending your family if you cause a scene.

Anyway I think I've fed this troll enough for today.

The point I was trying to make was that you should stick up for yourself and your family at the time of an incident.

You seem to take an opposing view.

At no point have I suggested causing a scene it is you who seem to think that anything you did would have caused a scene. I rather think not.

I am still unclear as to what happened when you were asked to leave.

Did you just get up and go?
Argue?
Ask if there was alternative solution?

You say you went quietly was that as soon as you were asked to go?

spanner82

To be fair I think you opinion of the food may have been worse after you'd been asked to leave. Also if you'd had your meals and your child was upset then perhaps it was best to leave.

I do have kids and I do get annoyed at people not being tolerant at all but it does sound as though your little one was just having a bad day and wanted to go home.

pendulum

Summary: The noisy sprog caused a ruckus. The parents of the sprog were challenged and sprog was ejected from premises. There was always going to be something wrong with the food or service after that - as revenge was in the parents minds.