Do not speed !!

delorean_2

RickHoughton wrote:

Don't need to buy a camera detector, if you're not going to speed. The detectors only stop people speeding near the cameras, all the other time, they're probably speeding.

That's a bit of an unfair generalisation. I have one and I do not speed.

Maybe I am in the minority of owners of these devices that does not speed. If anything it's helped me to keep a lookout for speed limits on roads I am unsure of, or if I creep over that limit and a camera is approaching I am alerted to the speed I am doing and don't run the risk of picking up a ticket for being 1mph over the designated limit.

These devices help, regardless of what public opinion is on them.

waterbaby

pinkfluffybabe wrote:

Without wanting to pick a fight with you over this, I wonder at your 'judging the limit to be too fast'. People who do this are the very people being talked about on this thread who are unable to keep up with traffic and cause danger to other drivers by causing them to have to overtake to proceed along the road.

No, I am not one of those people. I just didn't want to give the impression that I drive round narrow winding country lanes at 60, or past a primary school at 30 just as the children are leaving and crossing the road.

I have no problems with you questionning me, I'm pleased that you do. Just for the record though, I'd like to state that I teach advanced driving with the IAM, and this is one of the things that I teach the people I am allocated. I'm one of th minority who undertake training to improve their skills beyond basic test level.

wb

tomstickland

A driver on 9 points is going to be so obsessively fixated on their speedometer and looking out for any speed limit signs and cameras, that I wonder how much their levels of observation and concentration will be diminished in the paranoid pursuit of not wavering over a rigid artificial speed limit by a couple of mph.

Far safer to drive at 35mph with 100% concentration than to drive at 30mph with 75% concentration. But far less profitable for the government.

I manged to gain 6 points in one day (90mph on mway clocked by police car, I saw them but too late. I arrived home to find a NIP for 56mph in a desserted 50 limit at 8.00am on a Sunday morning. It was the Silverstone bypass roadworks and I'd being 50mph for 2 miles and had become totally frustrated with the stupidity of it,so opted to do 60). Anyway, 18 months later I was caught by a camera van that was cunningly hidden up a driveway, doing 72mph as I overtook a dawdler who was doing 40mph down a straight A road.

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Anyway, I managed 18 months with 9 points and didn't find sticking to the limits caused any wavering of concentration. In fact it required more.

The funniest thing was that after that I used to overtake on A roads at 60.000mph because that was obviously safer than getting on with the overtake.

delorean_2

Your first photo speaks volumes for people that seem to insist on driving ridiculously slow speeds on limit roads.

michaels

deepseadiver wrote:

The following 4 offences are a factor in most of fatal and serious injury accidents

1. Excess Speed
2. No seat belt
3. Using hand held mobile phone
4. Driving with excess alcohol

The above are what the police "should" spend time enforcing over and above all the other stuff that they might wish to give tickets out for etc. I think its all about being sensible and thinking about what you are doing. I think it would be pretty unlucky if you got a ticket for say 34mph in a 30 limit.

THis is one I love to see quoted - 'excessive speed' is a factor in accidents - but this is of course excessive for the road conditions, I wonder how many of the stated excessive speed statistics were also 'speed in excess of posted limit'. By no means all would be my guess.

freeloader

tomstickland wrote:

I manged to gain 6 points in one day (90mph on mway clocked by police car, I saw them but too late. I arrived home to find a NIP for 56mph in a desserted 50 limit at 8.00am on a Sunday morning. It was the Silverstone bypass roadworks and I'd being 50mph for 2 miles and had become totally frustrated with the stupidity of it,so opted to do 60). Anyway, 18 months later I was caught by a camera van that was cunningly hidden up a driveway, doing 72mph as I overtook a dawdler who was doing 40mph down a straight A road.

serves you right:rotfl: (and overtaking on a bend... tut tut - looks like you just missed those motorbikes too)

freeloader

can never really understand why people speed in the first place
(also for the tailgaters, would really like one of those LED things, saying "get off my arris" or something with similar spelling)

Murphy_The_Cat

freeloader wrote:

can never really understand why people speed in the first place

Mabye people feel that they can judge what is an appropraite speed better than a blanket speed limit that has been put in place by the government.

This would go someway to explain why every motorist on my way to and from work every day breaks the speed limit.

MTC

lizzie12_2

Having seen the nasty after math of an accident - anyone who speeds is silly.
Give yourself plenty of time - everyone passed their test doing the correct speed so why not continue?????
We take a camera out with us - if I am not driving one of these days I will click those who get up close or park in disabled bays - no I am not disabled but parking in bays when you have a good pair of legs !!!! sorry for the rant.

Murphy_The_Cat

lizzie12 wrote:

Having seen the nasty after math of an accident - anyone who speeds is silly.
Give yourself plenty of time - everyone passed their test doing the correct speed so why not continue?????
We take a camera out with us - if I am not driving one of these days I will click those who get up close or park in disabled bays - no I am not disabled but parking in bays when you have a good pair of legs !!!! sorry for the rant.

I've seen the nasty aftermath of plenty of accidents in my years of driving - but it is only if you can see what happened before the accident that you can judge if excessive spped was the cause - in most cases it's inattention or incompentence to blame, not speed.

As for your camera, whatever lights your candle. If your going top do it, get your finger out and do it - bleating about "one of these days I will" means absolutely nothing.

MTC