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The cutting out/cutting down alcohol thread (part 7)

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  • Afternoon all

    Hope everyone is OK

    Welcome back HB you have been missed!!!

    Sim cheer up mate you're doing your best and you will get there!

    Hugs to all

    Decalring 20 please Sparkles

    Off to work now will catch up later

    SSG

    XX
    :):)
  • fedupandskint
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  • jeffgeorge
    jeffgeorge Posts: 170 Forumite
    Hi all,

    Love this board often pop on to browse and get motivation!

    Big hugs going out to SIM!! You are doing great. One day off alcohol for people who struggle with it like us is a miracle and you done weeks, thats amazing. Life is p and down with feelings, memories, things happening but they are all managable if you keep it in the day and don't drink for one day at a time.

    I understand our feelings about AA but can I just share my experience.

    I was a binge drinker that within a three years developed to heavy dependent drinking,in that time, I lost my licence, my job, my husband and my child. I was on the front of the paper, for my crimes when intoxicated. I lost everything but most of all I lost myself. I had tried AA in the past and shunned it as I thought I had other options and I thought I was better then everyone else. AA only worked when I gave myself COMPLETLY to the programme and accepted my disease and started doing the steps. When I went not to make friends, I went becuse it kept me sober and I needed to be sober, I went because my life did depend on it and it till does.

    You gritted your teeth for five weeks and didnt drink on willpower, that may work for some people but having a programme really helps.

    I wish you all the luck in the world. I have not had a drink since January 4th and honestly that is a miracle, things are coming back to me but not at my pace,but I have acceptance aroud that today.

    Your life does not have to be a series of relapses and failed attempts to control your drinking, you have choices.

    lots of love

    mrs jg
    Sober and Fabulous 4/1/10

    Maintaing 10 stone since 22/3/11
  • newroadahead
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    Hi All


    Just a quick visit to say still AF, so thats 8 AFD this month(feels good getting close to my monthly score, hope I can keep it up).:)

    Hope everyone is still doing well, glad its not so hot tonight might actually get some sleep.

    Sim hope you are holding up.:)

    Sorry to write and dash got loads to do before bed.

    Take care all:A

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  • maman
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    I'm confident I'll not be drinking tonight, so

    8AF please Sparkles
  • SimIsOnTheUp
    SimIsOnTheUp Posts: 1,370 Forumite
    Sim

    Stop beating youreslf up,

    I think you should just go for it and worry about what are only possibilities at the end of the day IF and when they occur.

    So you apply for a licence and get knocked back - at least you tried and you can then try something else.

    Or you get a taxi licence revoked at a later date, as before at least you tried.

    Just go for it

    Really

    It's like lying on ones CV

    people do it at their own risk but they still do it.

    !st lot of bold you are taking it too far. It's not a moral issue to ly on an application form.

    2nd lot of bold You can move on. People in worse states than yours do it every day.

    This is the kind of thinking that starts you wanting to drink to escape yourself STOP IT Or i will be down there to clip you round the ear:D I would put a :rotfl:but i am not joking

    3rd highlighted as before you are totally beating yourself up.

    if your best friend said all of the above to you, how would you respond?

    So

    Try for the job, do your best, and if it doesn't happen then it doesn't happen. At least you tried.

    If all else fails just stay sober, and enjoy your life.

    End of lecture

    Hope it was OK to say all this

    XX

    Thanks SSG.

    I really want to go for this job, however it's not as straightforward as that.

    It's a bit more serious, than just proffering up an edited CV.. as I'd be withholding medical info, when applying to the Council for the taxi licence.

    If / when the Council contact my GP, for my medical notes, then they'll see my alcohol misuse / depression / anxiety, and will want to know why I haven't mentioned this on the form.

    They also state on their website, that they may prosecute, if an applicant does not declare any relevant info.

    As - 1 / My struggle with depression and drink, went down on the notes back in 2006, at the Council offices, when they 'interviewed me under caution' - so, this is bound to be flagged up by the Council licensing panel. Benefit fraud is also on the Council's list of no-no offences, which would lead to a licence not being granted (they state under 'criminal offences' though, whereas mine was civil).

    2 / Parking tickets (again, it was the Council who prosecuted me, this time, through the Magistrates Court, so they will probably have notes)

    3 / My current claim for Housing Benefit - the DWP have on my claim records, the alcoholism / depression and anxiety - so will the Council (Housing Benefit department) not have this also?

    4 / Worst of all, not only could the Council prosecute me, if I lie. They could also inform the DVLA. I would then lose my driving license entirely.

    An absolute nightmare.

    There's no way around this at all.

    You still think I can move on from this? At the moment, I can't see a way!

    Cheers,

    Sim x
  • SimIsOnTheUp
    SimIsOnTheUp Posts: 1,370 Forumite
    jeffgeorge wrote: »
    Hi all,

    Love this board often pop on to browse and get motivation!

    Big hugs going out to SIM!! You are doing great. One day off alcohol for people who struggle with it like us is a miracle and you done weeks, thats amazing. Life is p and down with feelings, memories, things happening but they are all managable if you keep it in the day and don't drink for one day at a time.

    I understand our feelings about AA but can I just share my experience.

    I was a binge drinker that within a three years developed to heavy dependent drinking,in that time, I lost my licence, my job, my husband and my child. I was on the front of the paper, for my crimes when intoxicated. I lost everything but most of all I lost myself. I had tried AA in the past and shunned it as I thought I had other options and I thought I was better then everyone else. AA only worked when I gave myself COMPLETLY to the programme and accepted my disease and started doing the steps. When I went not to make friends, I went becuse it kept me sober and I needed to be sober, I went because my life did depend on it and it till does.

    You gritted your teeth for five weeks and didnt drink on willpower, that may work for some people but having a programme really helps.

    I wish you all the luck in the world. I have not had a drink since January 4th and honestly that is a miracle, things are coming back to me but not at my pace,but I have acceptance aroud that today.

    Your life does not have to be a series of relapses and failed attempts to control your drinking, you have choices.

    lots of love

    mrs jg

    Hiya Mrs JG,

    Thanks for the big hugs!

    Congrats on your sobriety :)

    Brilliant to hear, that you're doing so well.

    I take it, that you're back at AA now then?

    I'd love to go back to AA, as I really need their support, to stay sober. However, I'm just worried as to what they'll think, as I've come and gone before. Too much pride :o

    Thanks again,

    Sim x
  • skintscottishgirl
    skintscottishgirl Posts: 482 Forumite
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    edited 21 July 2010 at 1:45AM
    Thanks SSG.

    I really want to go for this job, however it's not as straightforward as that.

    It's a bit more serious, than just proffering up an edited CV.. as I'd be withholding medical info, when applying to the Council for the taxi licence.

    If / when the Council contact my GP, for my medical notes, then they'll see my alcohol misuse / depression / anxiety, and will want to know why I haven't mentioned this on the form.

    They also state on their website, that they may prosecute, if an applicant does not declare any relevant info.

    As - 1 / My struggle with depression and drink, went down on the notes back in 2006, at the Council offices, when they 'interviewed me under caution' - so, this is bound to be flagged up by the Council licensing panel. Benefit fraud is also on the Council's list of no-no offences, which would lead to a licence not being granted (they state under 'criminal offences' though, whereas mine was civil).

    2 / Parking tickets (again, it was the Council who prosecuted me, this time, through the Magistrates Court, so they will probably have notes)

    3 / My current claim for Housing Benefit - the DWP have on my claim records, the alcoholism / depression and anxiety - so will the Council (Housing Benefit department) not have this also?

    4 / Worst of all, not only could the Council prosecute me, if I lie. They could also inform the DVLA. I would then lose my driving license entirely.

    An absolute nightmare.

    There's no way around this at all.

    You still think I can move on from this? At the moment, I can't see a way!

    Cheers,

    Sim x


    Ok Sim you are probably right, i was just trying to put a bit less negativity on the situation.

    At the end of the day i don't know anything about it.

    I just think you are making things more difficult for yourself with the way you think, maybe i am not taking it seriously enough, or maybe you're taking all of it too seriously?

    Just my opinion...

    SSG

    XX
    :):)
  • eselt
    eselt Posts: 604 Forumite
    Hi all

    Just to congratulate so many of you with your sobriety- well done everyboby. Having hideous computer problems at the moment due to teenagers downloading games with viruses in, but hoping to get the money together to get it sorted out ready for summer holidays.

    Hopefully be around a lot more soon.

    Thanks Eselt
  • Miss_Piggy_2
    Miss_Piggy_2 Posts: 3,631 Forumite
    Morning everyone

    Just popping in quickly - know I've been awol but loads of things (good and bad) going on so don't like to come on and moan all the time!

    Sparkles - I'm on 15 please!

    Sim - this is just my opinion (only read last couple of pages) so please don't take offence, but why are you so fixated on this taxi job when there are so many obstacles to you getting it?? Is that the attraction - that it IS unattainable? I feel you should be trying for a job where your record isn't going to be a major issue instead of going for a job its patently obvious you won't get. To be brutally honest, with your medical /alcohol/ record I wouldn't want you driving me in a taxi! (sorry that sounds harsh but am sure you will get what I mean!)

    Hope everyone else is ok. Lots of ups and downs here so I'm feeling a bit ho hum at the moment...just waiting for the next drama lol! Job-wise, I'm sorted. My boss did an amazing turnaround last wednesday and told me I could have the hours I wanted!! So thats sorted. But my replacement is causing all sorts of tensions at work. She's very outspoken and has upset quite a few members of staff. Our "management" just seem to think this is great!?:eek:

    Kids have been a problem....dramas on Sunday with a hysterical stepdaughter claiming her mum had thrown her out of the house. Turns out she walked out of her own accord and her mum was devastated. She's back home now and everything hunky dory but I can see more of the same in the offing......

    Needless to say...all my plans of AF'ness have gone out the window lately. I'm going easy on myself though. Just going to take one day at a time.

    On a good note....Foot is improving! I'm leaving my aircast off for periods now (although walking round sainsbugs without it yesterday wasn't a good idea!:()

    Love

    Miss P
    xx
    **Keep Calm and Carry On!**
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