MSE Parents Club Part 12

jillie1974

morning!!

just a quick visit as i'm off to the vet with Charlie in a few mins. check how his tail is healing.

(((hugs))) to all who need them

Sarah_Joanne

Morning

((((hugs)))) to those up lots in the night. Only read back a couple of pages so sorry if I've missed much.

We had our wedding and reception in different places and didn't put on any transport and it was fine. People know once they get their invitations that they have to sort something out so can plan in advance.

My baby has been having quite a lot of green poos Googled and seems a common reason is him taking too much foremilk and not enough hind milk. He only comes off the boob himself, I let him go til finished, not really sure what to do about it. I did try for the last day and a half to keep offering the same side before swapping but still green poops (apart from the massive yellow one this morning after his formula before bed as I was out). Anyone had this problem or have any advice? (ETA I obviously mean has anyone's baby had this problem lol )

SusanC_2

Haven't been on since Friday so just caught up by seraching my name.

Sarah_Joanne wrote: »

I think Susan has Beenie's number but she's not around today. I'm sure she's ok Maybe she's too busy pushing Amber around in all her prams!!

I was thinking of texting her - my phone is flat at the moment but will text her later on today.

chopsticks wrote: »

Susan, you wouldn't happen to know what the threshold is, would you?

How's Alice? Are you getting any more sleep?

I don't know what the thresholds are except for the first reduction threshold as that is the only one which applies to me.

Thanks for asking - Alice is pretty much the same. We were awake four or five times last night. (I was too tired to pay enough attention to counting.)

My_Fathers_Daughter wrote: »

I wouldn't want to go to a wedding that specified no children - what kind of people don't want children at their wedding? I am horrified!! I wouldn't want to be friends with those kinds of people.

My parents didn't have any children at their wedding. From what my mum has said it sounds like they thought that children would be likely to cause dispruption to the service and/or end up going out and/or not really appreciate/enjoy it. I don't think anyone invited to the reception had children anyway though as they just had a tiny one with about twelve people.

I wouldn't have considered excluding children and we specifically included all children on our invitations. Only one couple chose not to bring their child which implies most people prefer to bring their children with them.

Maybe those who don't want children there have been at wedding where there have been really badly behaved children?

Krystaltips

Sarah_Joanne wrote: »

My baby has been having quite a lot of green poos Googled and seems a common reason is him taking too much foremilk and not enough hind milk. He only comes off the boob himself, I let him go til finished, not really sure what to do about it. I did try for the last day and a half to keep offering the same side before swapping but still green poops (apart from the massive yellow one this morning after his formula before bed as I was out). Anyone had this problem or have any advice? (ETA I obviously mean has anyone's baby had this problem lol )

Yes, I had this problem with Caitlyn... Carry on as you are offer the same side again if he only had a short feed previously, don't swap sides during a feed unless you feel that he needs it (comes off and is still fretfull) let him stay on until he's finished... And Dr Jack Newman says if the colour of the nappies offends you... Wear sunglasses when you change them

Sometimes it can just be an immature gut or a slightly upset tummy....

I just found something out and I'm a bit :eek::eek::eek:

Anyway, off to buggy fit...

BeenieCat

*sneaks in*

Hello!

< was here the whole time :whistle:

csh_2

BeenieCat wrote: »

*sneaks in*

Hello!

< was here the whole time :whistle:

hello! you doing ok?

aless02

Fitzio wrote: »

Aless - poor you with your night time wakenings. I think that the only way to do it is if you and DH agree your plan of action first. I had Holly in the spare room again last night too as she woke up around 2am and I hadn't even fallen asleep by then! She just wants to cuddle in and will go back to sleep fine though so it is easier as well as being nice! But I am going to tackle it soon.

Have you thought about putting Finn to bed a bit later? What time do you put him down? I am sure you have been putting him to bed pretty early since he was quite young. Maybe letting him stay up a bit later would be better and then you can work backwards again knocking half an hour off every few days? When Holly went to bed at around 10pm, she always slept through til morning!! I miss those days lol. x

Thanks, Fitz. I'm not entirely sure what the problem is (of course, because if I did, I would fix it!). The wake-ups are generally uneventful and he will settle back down fairly easily - so I'm inclined to think it's not so much an I-want-mama thing as a I-woke-up-and-need-help-getting-back-to-sleep-okay-there-we-go-zzzzzzzz, which the usual culprit is EITHER undertired or overtired! :eek: So it's a bit of experimenting to figure out which of the 2 it is. I will add putting to bed later on the list of things to attempt - the first thing I'm going to try is cutting back on naps, as doing some reading they are on the high end for his age so maybe he needs less day sleep but none of us have realised (not even him, because he takes them quite easily).

Off to a friend's house in a bit...not sure I want to, since I know for a fact she didn't have any sleep problems with her LO. :p but maybe he can teach Finn a thing or two in secret baby talk! :rotfl:

Eta: also, we do generally have a plan of action in the night, but sometimes it goes out the window when DH wakes up in one of his ogre moods, which happens occasionally.

Also, hi Beenie! How's Amber?

csh_2

C'mon Krystal spill so we can all be :eek: :eek:

BrunoM

Fitzio wrote: »

Bruno - What are Mrs Bruno's reasons for still BFing? Does she still get anything out of it herself, or is she doing it because she would feel guilty if she stopped? I am just trying to understand (not making any judgement) as I obviously haven't been in the situation myself. I thought it was partly a bonding thing between mum and baby, so if it's causing distress, then it sounds like it is having the opposite affect now and being destructive of their bond which kind of defeats the purpose. I am not sure I am expressing this very well.

got-it-spend-it wrote: »

Bruno- FWIW I think Fitz's question is a good one. Is OH's primary motivation for still feeding E that it is an embedded part of his routine, or is it the bonding question, or that she is a firm believer in the health benefits or something else? I think answering this will help you develop a way forward. If it's the routine then maybe you giving him a cup of milk and a snack instead may help. If it's bonding then maybe OH can replace it with a story and cup of milk or similar and if she wants him to continue to receive the benefits then maybe express. It's a tough one, but I know when I was pregnant I couldn't have coped with feeding as well. It must be very energy draining too- I do still think BFing can be a bit draining and when I was pregnant I simply wouldn't have had any spare energy.

Thanks Fitz, SS and GISI and others. All good questions and observations!
I think that at this stage the main reason for BF is because it's a heavily entrenched part of the routine.

We had been working on the theory that 'at some stage' he would self-wean, perhaps when milk changes due to pregnancy, and that that would make things a lot easier than if we tried to break him of the habit when he didn't want to.

He is BFing a lot less now in fact, and it's pretty much only in conjunction with nap and bedtime. However it is always 100% the last thing that happens before bed, and always the last thing before nap unless he falls asleep in a moving car.

We think we're going to try to insert milk in a cup into bedtime routine, at first before BF, then hopefully somehow replacing it. We're just afraid of breaking a routine that mostly-almost-has been working and tearing things down to build them up again so hoping for a gradual transition instead of a huge drama!

While I am here just to say hugs and sympathy for the numerous people having bad sleeps at the moment! How very frustrating it is fingers crossed things change for the several sufferers asap, it really takes it out of you...

BeenieCat

csh wrote: »

hello! you doing ok?

Aye, been down in the dumps but thought it was best i come back so you can all kick me up the bum so i'm not moping around. Tried back on my tablets but they make me properly suicidal so balls to that lol!

But i didn't come to moan

And i want to know Krystal's :eek: :eek: thing too