DVD wont play via my new USB Stick

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Richie-from-the-Boro wrote: »

Yeh, this machine is x64, but even the [ if I remember correctly ] x86 O/S won't deal with 32bit format.
I assume ' billy boy ' decided to make try to sure only NTFS drives would be supported, of course if you plug any 32bit into Win7 / HDD / USB / whatever it just works.

Windows will support any FAT32 device larger than 32GB, it just won't create them. Microsoft introduced an arbitrary cut off point for the physical size of FAT32 volumes that can be created via a format in Windows because of the large I/O activity that is required for the file system to function. While the performance is acceptable for Flash memory and other small applications, it's not suitable for larger volumes and/or ones where there is a lot of activity, merging NTFS into the consumer domain eradicated all of the performance issues that blighted FAT32 and corrected many more failings that it had.

ExFAT is available as a replacement for FAT32 on Flash Memory and other associated products, I think the only thing that is hindering it becoming more widespread is the licensing terms that come with it. It's a shame, because it's a very good system for such implementations.

It's the same as he decided to force everyone into ' live mail ' but every copy of Win7 still has a working Outlook Express hidden and usable.

By today's standards Outlook Express is a poor choice for an Email client. It suffered from performance, stability and security problems throughout it's entire lifetime. Windows Live Mail is a better product all round, but I am interested in why you'd continue to use OE?

Richie-from-the-Boro

anewhope wrote: »

Windows will support any FAT32 device larger than 32GB, it just won't create them. Microsoft introduced an arbitrary cut off point for the physical size of FAT32 volumes that can be created via a format in Windows because of the large I/O activity that is required for the file system to function. While the performance is acceptable for Flash memory and other small applications, it's not suitable for larger volumes and/or ones where there is a lot of activity, merging NTFS into the consumer domain eradicated all of the performance issues that blighted FAT32 and corrected many more failings that it had.

ExFAT is available as a replacement for FAT32 on Flash Memory and other associated products, I think the only thing that is hindering it becoming more widespread is the licensing terms that come with it. It's a shame, because it's a very good system for such implementations.



By today's standards Outlook Express is a poor choice for an Email client. It suffered from performance, stability and security problems throughout it's entire lifetime. Windows Live Mail is a better product all round, but I am interested in why you'd continue to use OE?

thanks anewhope,

"" I/O activity that is required for the file system to function "" - didn't know that was why it wouldn't create 32bit volumes.

"" Outlook Express is a poor choice "" - it is indeed, and Live Mail is certainly a very much better product but I'm long gone 70 years and set in my ways. I already had Live Mail running, in the first instance it was the challenge of reversing a Microsoft decision and making it work that attracted me to it, and later the ' happy warm comfortable feeling ' of something familiar, so I'm still using it.

BTW we agree on how good Extended File Allocation Tables are, yet another Microsoft licence / patent issue if I remember

leeegglestone

Turns out i was wrong. My memory stick is playin one particular video file, and none of the others that I added. only difference i can tell is that the one that plays is 20mins long and all the others are 40+mins.

Back to square one

leeegglestone

Plugged it into my win xp spare pc. formatted it to fat32 as was only option. took less than a minute. added a movie and still wont play the file on my dvd. why oh why did it seem to like Scrubs so much and nothing else

Richie-from-the-Boro

leeegglestone,

Maximum File Size :

FAT16 - 2GB
FAT32 - 4GB

That's why earlier in my posts I tried to steer you towards 32bit, it's the biggest file [ avoiding NTFS ] you can get on a stick that's compatible with your O/S.

So now we have a problem, first check the particular file size just to confirm what they are.
Second, if the 40+ minute ones are more than 4GB the O/S should have refused to copy it.
Third, if it has copied the 40+ minute ones and they are less than 4GB you have new problem [we will come back to this ] unrelated to your memory stick.
Lastly do these 40+ files play in your ' known to work ' other memory stick ?

Richie-from-the-Boro

leeegglestone wrote: »

Plugged it into my win xp spare pc. formatted it to fat32 as was only option. took less than a minute. added a movie and still wont play the file on my dvd. why oh why did it seem to like Scrubs so much and nothing else

See post #5 where I told you to format it in a WinXP machine !
Do what I said [ file size(s) in my post at 7:43 PM

leeegglestone

File size of tv ep was 348mb
Yeah these tv eps on work on my other 1gb stick,
I dloaded the swiss again to put it on upstairs xp machine. did the format, unplugged n plugged back in to take effect. took downstairs plugged in mine. added the movie file, plugged in dvd, and yep you guessed it, still wont play the file :-(

Richie-from-the-Boro

leeegglestone wrote: »

File size of tv ep was 348mb
Yeah these tv eps on work on my other 1gb stick,
I dloaded the swiss again to put it on upstairs xp machine. did the format, unplugged n plugged back in to take effect. took downstairs plugged in mine. added the movie file, plugged in dvd, and yep you guessed it, still wont play the file :-(

So you have a 1GB and a 16GB stick, both formatted as FAT32.

An identical 348MB file will play on the 1GB stick but not on the 16GB stick, so it's not the player or the particular file / and / or / the stick size.

In that case it's the 16GB stick, but not necessarily the formatting of the stick, something very weird is going on here. It's not uncommon for piece of hardware to just simply dislike a particular brand of memory, equally its not unusual for what you bought as a 16GB stick to be 2GB in reality, but in this case it plays a smaller file with no problems.

- create a folder on your desktop called xxx
- then create 30 folders on the stick called 01 to 30
- then copy the 348MB to each of the 30 folders

Then pull [ dismount ] the stick out, switch the puter completely off ( not re-boot ).
Then start the puter, when it's booted, put the stick in and copy all the 15 sub directories and their contents into the xxx folder you made on the desktop.

- did it do it, any errors, are all the files in the sub directories, do they play on the puter ?

BTW. You don't need Swissknife on a WinXp machine, it'll do just fine with it's own format

enigma52

Richie-from-the-Boro wrote: »

So you have a 1GB and a 16GB stick, both formatted as FAT32.

An identical 348MB file will play on the 1GB stick but not on the 16GB stick, so it's not the player or the particular file / and / or / the stick size.

In that case it's the 16GB stick, but not necessarily the formatting of the stick, something very weird is going on here. It's not uncommon for piece of hardware to just simply dislike a particular brand of memory, equally its not unusual for what you bought as a 16GB stick to be 2GB in reality, but in this case it plays a smaller file with no problems.

- create a folder on your desktop called xxx
- then create 30 folders on the stick called 01 to 30
- then copy the 348MB to each of the 30 folders

Then pull [ dismount ] the stick out, switch the puter completely off ( not re-boot ).
Then start the puter, when it's booted, put the stick in and copy all the 15 sub directories and their contents into the xxx folder you made on the desktop.

- did it do it, any errors, are all the files in the sub directories, do they play on the puter ?

BTW. You don't need Swissknife on a WinXp machine, it'll do just fine with it's own format

is there 15 or 30 files to copy? and where you say create 30 folders is this on stick or desktop, natty name for a 70+ year old!

Richie-from-the-Boro

"" is there 15 or 30 files to copy? and where you say create 30 folders is this on stick or desktop, natty name for a 70+ year old! ""

er .. .. .. thanks enigma52

I'm coming to the conclusion that it's

- ' user error '
- a 2GB stick pretending to be a 16GB stick
- or a DVD player that doesn't like that particular brand of flash drive

There are thousands of this type of con on e-bay.This thread is going on forever and getting nowhere. It doesn't really matter how many files or folders in total, it only matters that the O/P proves that the 16GB stick can hold 16GB.

The reason is, it's no good just copying small files, a bogus memory stick [ bodged controller/flash chip ] will always verify it's ok. It's no good copying onto and straight back from a stick without a re-boot, because in many cases what appears to be files being copied back from the stick are not - they are in fact the original files in the O/S buffer.

The reason for saying 30 folders / do this / do that etc is because you are never sure of the ability of the individual to do what you want, so a mechanical do this / do that etc walkthrough is easier.