condom split, whats the chances

Imp

MissShoes wrote: »

SO what you're saying is, unless you are specifically trying to conceive a child, you should refrain from having sex just in case contraception fails as no form of contraception is 100% other than abstinence?

Wow.

Fun.

I think that what Mrs Imp was trying to say was that if you are not in a position to live with the natural consequences of sex, then you should abstain.

16 is a perfectly good age to have sex. From 16, you can get a job and support your family and act like a man.

Person_one

Imp wrote: »

I think that what Mrs Imp was trying to say was that if you are not in a position to live with the natural consequences of sex, then you should abstain.

16 is a perfectly good age to have sex. From 16, you can get a job and support your family and act like a man.

I suppose this is one of the few cases where there can never be true gender equality. If a pregnancy does occur, a woman has to make the choice of whether or not to become a parent while a man has to just accept her decision either way and live with it as best he can.

As a female, I don't assume that a baby is necessarily a natural consequence of sex anymore, but for a man its always a possibility, however small.

ETA I don't believe that anybody should be expected to abstain from sex unless actively trying for a baby, everybody's miserable enough as it is!

SugarSpun

Torry_Quine wrote: »

I repeat if you believe that life begins at conception then the MAP is an abortifacient.

An abortifacient ends a pregnancy. A pregnancy occurs when a fertilised egg implants into the uterine wall. Since the MAP doesn't end a pregnancy because it doesn't work post-implantation, it isn't an abortifacient. This bit is simple medical terminology.

The debate over whether life begins at conception, implantation or elsewhere is something else entirely, and it infuriates me that medical terminology is used in an emotive way and that it's then picked up as "fact" by people like the OP's son's girlfriend.

Torry_Quine

SugarSpun wrote: »

An abortifacient ends a pregnancy. A pregnancy occurs when a fertilised egg implants into the uterine wall. Since the MAP doesn't end a pregnancy because it doesn't work post-implantation, it isn't an abortifacient. This bit is simple medical terminology.

The debate over whether life begins at conception, implantation or elsewhere is something else entirely, and it infuriates me that medical terminology is used in an emotive way and that it's then picked up as "fact" by people like the OP's son's girlfriend.

An abortifacient ends a life and yes people can disagree as to when life begins but that doesn't change the simple fact that for many people it is an abortifacient.

Can't we at least agree that we take different but equally sincere viewpoints?

Person_one

Torry_Quine wrote: »

An abortifacient ends a life and yes people can disagree as to when life begins but that doesn't change the simple fact that for many people it is an abortifacient.

Can't we at least agree that we take different but equally sincere viewpoints?

:rotfl:

I can certainly accept you are sincere, sincere doesn't always equal correct though!

Torry_Quine

Person_one wrote: »

:rotfl:

I can certainly accept you are sincere, sincere doesn't always equal correct though!

I could say the same thing! The smilie is not appropriate by the way!

ceridwen

minnie123 wrote: »

This is probably not the best advice but this is what I would do. Basically I would talk to her direct so you can try and convince her to get the morning after pill (you can get them from the pharmacy for free now) and if she is reluctant I would threaten to talk to her parents. And I would actually go through with this.

I know it's probably not ethical but if it was my son I would do anything to protect him from becoming a father at 15.

She needs to go to the doctors and get the regular pill anyway if they are going to be having sex.

Agree with this - to which I would personally add that I would be working out the best way to say to my son "What the HECK are you DOING having sex at your age?". (That probably makes me old-fashioned - ie that I think people should wait till they are adults to do so:cool:).

But - it's a case of "first things first" - ie deal with the immediate crisis as per above advice. THEN have a good old go at son for being so stupid as to have sex at his age anyway (which would include explaining to him that there are girls out there trying to get pregnant regardless - in order to get the Council housing/benefit package - and telling him I wouldn't want to see him used by a girl like that). I must admit I wouldnt trust my temper as to just how much I would "let fly" at any girl that used any son of mine for such a purpose....but I would still go and see her if need be (complete with chequebook in hand in case the morning after pill was too late - ready to pay the cost of an abortion to solve the problem).

ceridwen

Imp wrote: »

16 is a perfectly good age to have sex. From 16, you can get a job and support your family and act like a man.

You ARE joking presumably??????

At 16 they are still supposed to be in full-time education. Their life hasnt even started yet - and certainly shouldnt be ruined right at the outset before they've even finished getting whatever qualifications they are due to get. The rest of their life could/probably would go "right down the pan" at that point if forced into parenthood.

kindofagilr

ceridwen wrote: »

You ARE joking presumably??????

At 16 they are still supposed to be in full-time education. Their life hasnt even started yet - and certainly shouldnt be ruined right at the outset before they've even finished getting whatever qualifications they are due to get. The rest of their life could/probably would go "right down the pan" at that point if forced into parenthood.

Then why is the legal age for sex 16?

zippychick

Do you think it might be more appropriate to start another thread about when conception occurs/abortions/catholic faiths/moral issues of having sex at such an age? etc?

The op asked for help and has her answer:)