condom split, whats the chances

Glitzkiss

Mrs_Imp wrote: »

Triggles - finally, someone with some sense.

From the posts the OP has written it seems very much like the gf was given very little choice in the matter and has been informed in no uncertain terms about all the many lives she would be ruining, and the threat of her mother being told and any possible fall out from that. There was NEVER once the mention of 'whatever the decision I'll support it' So in that way it's very much the same attitude as we have been told the gfs parent's have - thou shalt not have a baby at this age.

As for saying that talking about education being not necessary on this thread, that's utterly wrong. Supposing some teen has the same problem - a split condom. A quick google search may reveal this thread and it's one-sided opinion about how they MUST have the MAP and how their life will be ruined otherwise. It's good to have a discussion about how people can and do have a perfectly normal life with a child at a young age, especially if they get PROPER support from their parents.

As Triggles said, you've obviously decided that you're right and everyone else who says 'hold on a mo, back off with the pressure' is wrong.

If the gf has any doubts about having the MAP, then she will now blame the bf for the pressure she was put under, even if she would've come to the same decision herself without the pressure.

As another poster has said - their pill failed. So if you really want your teen not to get pregnant, start talking about abstinence to them as well as safe sex because every form of contraception still carries a risk of pregnancy.

Are we reading the same thread?

Ladyhawk

Glitzkiss wrote: »

Are we reading the same thread?

I was thinking the same thing...

Mrs_Imp

Well clearly you haven't.

I'm not going to go through and quote the times that people have said how much their lives would be ruined with having a baby, and the son would be 'lumbered' with a child he didn't want, or the person who said to slap the gf for not wanting to take the MAP. Or the fact the the OP not once mentioned supporting whatever decision the gf wanted to take.

And yes, someone did ask why talking about education was relevant. It is, as some people clearly think that having a baby stops people from having an education.

And one poster did mention their pill failing in them twice, hence the need for talk on contraception never being 100% effective.

I guess you didn't read from page 1 all the way through.

OP, are you going to be taking son and gf to the GUM climic. A split condom can spell much worse than a baby (chlamidia, herpes, crabs, warts, HIV etc etc). And don't forget to book the gf in for a smear test. Now she's active she's at risk of cervical cancer from the HPV.

Mrs_Imp

julie03 wrote: »

if there is ways of avoiding pregnancy all options should be taken.

ermmm....pants on!

galvanizersbaby

Mrs_Imp wrote: »

Well clearly you haven't.

I'm not going to go through and quote the times that people have said how much their lives would be ruined with having a baby, and the son would be 'lumbered' with a child he didn't want, or the person who said to slap the gf for not wanting to take the MAP. Or the fact the the OP not once mentioned supporting whatever decision the gf wanted to take.

And yes, someone did ask why talking about education was relevant. It is, as some people clearly think that having a baby stops people from having an education.

And one poster did mention their pill failing in them twice, hence the need for talk on contraception never being 100% effective.

I guess you didn't read from page 1 all the way through.

OP, are you going to be taking son and gf to the GUM climic. A split condom can spell much worse than a baby (chlamidia, herpes, crabs, warts, HIV etc etc). And don't forget to book the gf in for a smear test. Now she's active she's at risk of cervical cancer from the HPV.

Surely in light of what you've said so far on the situation re pressure (or the other situations that you have been referring to in this thread which from what I've read haven't been relevant to the OP but I guess may be relevant to somebody) didn't you mean to post OP, are you going to be talking to your son and gf re the GUM clinic? - not 'taking' as that could be construed as pressure

MissShoes

Mrs_Imp wrote: »

ermmm....pants on!

SO what you're saying is, unless you are specifically trying to conceive a child, you should refrain from having sex just in case contraception fails as no form of contraception is 100% other than abstinence?

Wow.

Fun.

venus1978

MissShoes wrote: »

SO what you're saying is, unless you are specifically trying to conceive a child, you should refrain from having sex just in case contraception fails as no form of contraception is 100% other than abstinence?

Wow.

Fun.

Yeah I'm 32 and married for ten years, we don't ever want to have children so incase the contraception fails we've never had sex :cool:

Loz01

Mrs_Imp wrote: »

ermmm....pants on!

Most impractical advice ever for teenagers. Chances are, they're NOT going to refrain from having sex until they're 20 odd and married, so the best thing is to talk to them about contraception and all the options. Its ridiculous to say "dont have sex, ok?" and leave them to it. Look how many teen pregnancies we have in Britain!

SugarSpun

There's a bit of misinformation in this thread - Levonelle (the MAP) works by preventing ovulation and irritating the lining of the uterus so a fertilised egg can't implant there. However, once an egg's been fertilised it releases all sorts of hormones that prevent the MAP from working, which is why you need to get it ASAP. Once there's a fertilised egg heading in the direction of the uterus, all the MAP is going to do is make you feel a bit queasy; it's not an abortifacient.

The MAP is commonly (and sometimes deliberately) confused with mifepristone, which is an abortifacient pill. They're not the same thing, although in China mifepristone is generally prescribed as a MAP. Still, the OP and her son and his girlfriend aren't in China.

I went on the Pill for severe period pains when I was 17. My father found out and accused me of being a dreadful slapper. I was very much a virgin at the time - I'm glad the OP didn't jump to any conclusions and I hope the story ends well.

Torry_Quine

SugarSpun wrote: »

There's a bit of misinformation in this thread - Levonelle (the MAP) works by preventing ovulation and irritating the lining of the uterus so a fertilised egg can't implant there. However, once an egg's been fertilised it releases all sorts of hormones that prevent the MAP from working, which is why you need to get it ASAP. Once there's a fertilised egg heading in the direction of the uterus, all the MAP is going to do is make you feel a bit queasy; it's not an abortifacient

I repeat if you believe that life begins at conception then the MAP is an abortifacient. It can in fact work once conception/fertilisation takes place before implantation. You state that it works by irritating the lining of the womb so a fertilised egg can't implant but then go on to that once the egg is fertilised it releases hormones that prevent the MAP from working, these two statements do not make sense when put together.